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[swatlord]

No, but hoppah has stated many times before, he will not be doubling ambulance loads.

Where might I view this information?

[Sgt.Wulf]

And do you have stats to back that up?

Nordic countries, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden all utilize fire personnel for medical duties too.
I took the saying "paramedic is merged with the firestation" as "Fire personnel have emergency medical care training too".
So in this case, it leaves the US. Most of the fire personnel in the US are trained in the field of emergency care, now aren't they?

[Sgt.Wulf]

Now I dare to draw a line between first aid and emergency care.

[swatlord]

Now I dare to draw a line between first aid and emergency care.

Well, they can stop bleeding and sucking chest wounds and such. They could start IV's if they really wanted to. With all they know, they could start stabilizing before ALS or BLS is on scene

[Newfoundking]

I can give surgery, doesn't mean I'm cleared for it... Anyone can try anything medical, but you can only legally do it if you have training, and most police (including LA) do not require an EMT certification, however you can get one. AFAIK you just need first aid.

[jab16]

I can give surgery, doesn't mean I'm cleared for it... Anyone can try anything medical, but you can only legally do it if you have training, and most police (including LA) do not require an EMT certification, however you can get one. AFAIK you just need first aid.

LASD has medics which require a EMT certification from my knowalge. But they are there ovn divison and usially are staffed on there sikorskey (however its spelled )

[swatlord]

I can give surgery, doesn't mean I'm cleared for it... Anyone can try anything medical, but you can only legally do it if you have training, and most police (including LA) do not require an EMT certification, however you can get one. AFAIK you just need first aid.

Right, but I know a lot of police agencies prefer to have their officers trained to a certain level. They may not REQUIRE it to join, but after they join, they may offer it.

[Xplorer4x4]

With respect, I don't believe I asked you

No but when its been said over and over again..I think i can answer the question for you.

Where might I view this information?

For one:
http://forum.emergen...h...st&p=111533

Nordic countries, Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden all utilize fire personnel for medical duties too.
I took the saying "paramedic is merged with the firestation" as "Fire personnel have emergency medical care training too".
So in this case, it leaves the US. Most of the fire personnel in the US are trained in the field of emergency care, now aren't they?

I dont care what Europe does, but are you referring to FFs being EMTs and Medics or Ambulance service being part of the FD? If you mean ambulances being part of the FD I dont believe it till i see stats, atleast for the US.

LASD has medics which require a EMT certification from my knowalge. But they are there ovn divison and usially are staffed on there sikorskey (however its spelled )

That would be LASD Search and Rescue. The members are Reserve Deputies if I recall correctly, and must be trained as EMT.

[jab16]

yeah that sounds right

[riverking100]

I enjoy the game the installer was easy to installer. The enjoy the new freemap of the game. I enjoy looking at the new buildings and how current they are. My dislike is the speed of the map how it takes forever for my units to get to the emergency at hand. But its good to play a new version of emergency la mod. If you doing another version of LA you should have a option to put a fire of choice to put in what every fire station like the option of the police dept and hospital. I'm enjoying the game so far keep it up.

[jab16]

LOL, yeah just go in and add a extra slot in the editor, simple.

[swatlord]

No but when its been said over and over again..I think i can answer the question for you.


For one:
http://forum.emergen...h...st&p=111533

With respect, that link is of no relevance... Hoppah says in that post he wouldn't change STRETCHER capacity.... not patients. Patient load is what I was talking about

I dont care what Europe does, but are you referring to FFs being EMTs and Medics or Ambulance service being part of the FD? If you mean ambulances being part of the FD I dont believe it till i see stats, atleast for the US.

Then why are you replying to it? With respect, if you don't care, then don't worry about it. And yes, most ambulances are a part of FD. The exceptions would be ambulance companies that do strictly transports with their ambulances.

Here is proof:
http://www.phillyfir...002-7B_3086.JPG
http://www.freefoto....nce-R-1_web.jpg
http://www.villageof...NCYMEDICAL1.jpg

Note who they belong to, and they are all US based

[jab16]

No!

That is incorrect, I dont know where your from but your experences dont represent the WHOLE U.S.

Not all fire departments are the only medics, there are county wide EMS systems that Work with the fire department and are the main medic ambulances for the area. Also take San Diego for example, they have such a large population and area that they hire outside companys to provide and staff there ambulances at there stations. So please next time try to do more research on the ENTIRE country.

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With respect, that link is of no relevance... Hoppah says in that post he wouldn't change STRETCHER capacity.... not patients. Patient load is what I was talking about

so the max capacity of the ambulances in the mod won't be changed.

[swatlord]

No!

That is incorrect, I dont know where your from but your experences dont represent the WHOLE U.S.

Not all fire departments are the only medics, there are county wide EMS systems that Work with the fire department and are the main medic ambulances for the area. Also take San Diego for example, they have such a large population and area that they hire outside companys to provide and staff there ambulances at there stations. So please next time try to do more research on the ENTIRE country before you start to talk about an entire country.

And to reply to this

You mistake my post. I said MOST Ambulances are part of fire dept. I understand that some ambulance services are separate, but for the most part, FD runs ambulance. Yes, I understand some areas contract out ambulances, but they often have a QRS. If that was not clear in my original post, that would be my mistake

[jab16]

OK

[billyfromhill]

Well in some places EMS and fire is separate but still a city service. For example, in Cleveland, Ohio, Cleveland EMS is separate from the Cleveland Division of Fire.

http://farm4.static....ee0888c5c_o.jpg

[Newfoundking]

Congratulations, you've successfully derailed this topic with a suggestion... Ambulance load WILL NOT BE CHANGED, hoppah has stated this many times. I am in my mod police car, I don't wanna have to take anyone in back, there isn't much room, and I hate passengers, so let's go back to LA mod 1.9, not ambulances of the USA