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#81 MikesPhotos

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:13 PM

Mike, noticed that the LAFD picked up a segrave engine for airport use. Is this because segrave was the lowest bid, or was there some reason for going with segrave?


Due to the large quantities of apparatus purchased each budget cycle, very few manufacturers can fulfill the whole order. The last order was split 13 and 13 between Pierce and Seagrave equally, and the airport rig just fell into that purchase.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:20 PM

Due to the large quantities of apparatus purchased each budget cycle, very few manufacturers can fulfill the whole order. The last order was split 13 and 13 between Pierce and Seagrave equally, and the airport rig just fell into that purchase.

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gotcha, I'm just not used tomanufacturers not being able to fill a full order because I always here about the FDNY's contracts, and there almost always filled by segrave.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:01 AM

whats the difference between deputy chief and district chief? is the deputy chief the guy 1 lower than BC, and district would be stationed at a firehouse?

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:07 AM

whats the difference between deputy chief and district chief? is the deputy chief the guy 1 lower than BC, and district would be stationed at a firehouse?

Hello, the difference between the district chief and deputy chief is the the deputy is higher in rank, one below the chief. the district chief is only for the district (area) that they are in control of.
I hope this helps :)

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:11 AM

whats the difference between deputy chief and district chief? is the deputy chief the guy 1 lower than BC, and district would be stationed at a firehouse?

deputy usually means assistant, so henceforth, deputy cheifs are usualy assistant cheifs and are one step below the cheif of the department. I'm thinking that a district cheif is usually similar to a division cheif, who usualy controls an area several battalions large, and are in between a BC and a Deputy Cheif.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 03:09 AM

Well here, I know it goes Chief, Assistant Chief, then Deputy chief then Cpt.(Like Batt Chief)

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 04:08 AM

thought so. thx. was just making sure so i could keep writing the manual for the EM4 STLMod

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 12:54 AM

Am i allowed to post a example of bad procedure? cause it is old but Very Very Very good example of what not to do when your a cop and if not is there a place where i could?

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 03:15 PM

Am i allowed to post a example of bad procedure? cause it is old but Very Very Very good example of what not to do when your a cop and if not is there a place where i could?

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I'd prefer you start a new topic since mikey intend this topic for serious questions about the differences between the various emergency services worldwide.

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 11:46 PM

Got it thank you

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 02:21 AM

hey,

In holland we have the Riot police (Mobiele Eenheid) an the "swat" (arrestatie team)

I know that the Swat aresteds high risk people and rescues people in some siuations.
But how controles the Riots in the States?? because in the game you have to take or the "normal" police or the SWAT.
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 08:25 PM

i dont know about the rest of the US but where i live in the us we use horses and we have small groups in sort of wedge formations to slow down the people then after they get past them there is sort of a wall were all of the other riot police are lined up and block them off and the horse police just partol around but this just were i live in the US so in other places it is probably diffrent.

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 11:18 AM

hey,

In holland we have the Riot police (Mobiele Eenheid) an the "swat" (arrestatie team)

I know that the Swat aresteds high risk people and rescues people in some siuations.
But how controles the Riots in the States?? because in the game you have to take or the "normal" police or the SWAT.


As demonstrated recently by the May Day demonstrations and the Prop 8 demonstrations in and around Los Angeles, Crowd Control and Riot Control is a complex operation involving every officer in the department. Motor officers and bike patrol units are used for quick response, quick barriers, and routing groups. Regular patrol officers with helmets, batons and other protection as necessary ,can form up platoons and response lines for direct control and confrontation. Metro Divison will deploy SWAT and Mounted Calvary Platoons for special needs and weapons deployment, with SWAT being tasked with all specialty weapons such as tear gas and other items in their arsenal. Other officers and commanders will be tasked with public address/information and deploy numerous loudspeaker vehicles.

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 12:43 AM

Yep he stole a ladder.......quint 9........ladders and pumpers do not have keys...they have a battery switch and an ignition button. it was on a med call at night and the 3 firefighters were inside we leave them running. he jumped in and drove through a brick fence and about 3 miles then rolled it . $750,000 USD strap metal now.


Wow, what a bastard, they rolled one over in Connaticut about five years ago by taking a turn too fast, it was a Pirce Dash 100 ft. ladder completly destroyed the cab nearly crushing the engineer. You should make the kid pay for the new quint.

Oh yeah Mike I wanted to ask you something...
Did the LAFD ever fully switch from the Crowns and Lafrance units?
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 12:26 AM

Well, I'll just say if anyone does have any Questions about Australian Emergency Services, feel free to send me a PM or reply.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 12:43 AM

Oh yeah Mike I wanted to ask you something...
Did the LAFD ever fully switch from the Crowns and Lafrance units?


All LAFD Tillered trucks in front line service are American LaFrance. There are still some old Seagraves with the open rear in reserve.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 12:47 AM

Mike,

With the LAFD, how does their dispatch system work? I've never really grasped the concept of box alarms.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 01:01 AM

Mike,

With the LAFD, how does their dispatch system work? I've never really grasped the concept of box alarms.

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We don't have Box Alarms in LA. You can read about lettered assignments for structure fires here in this post.

Beyond that, if you roll your mouse over an active call in the game, you can see a good representation of a typical LA response to that type of call.

btw- i am completely umfamiiar w/ LACoFD, do they operate quints?


The Los Angeles COUNTY Fire Department operates both tillered and non-tillered quints, and I believe even a few non-quint straight trucks, depending on what apparatus came over when the area was aquired via contract. The great overwhelming majority of trucks are 75ft tillered quints, with more 100ft being purchased in the last order.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:35 AM

To answer the debate about the ranks in US fire depts:

In most moderate sized fire departments it goes:

Firefighter
D/O (driver/operator)
Lieutenant*
Captain
Batt. Chief
District/Division Chief
Deputy Chief**
Chief of Department

*- A typical shift last 24 hours with three shifts. So there is usually a captain who is the head of the company and his subordinates are Lt's who run the other two shifts, that way there is a definate head of the station but still a seperate officer for each shift.
**A deputy chief is the fire chief's right hand man but in most departments they assume another role (Public Information Officer, Safety Chief, etc.)

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 08:38 PM

he D/O is called an engineer.
Heor She operates the ump panel and drives the truck.
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