This topic was created to help filter questions regarding equiptment and tactics used by all the emergency agencies away from modding topics and into a unified field where all manner of questions can be asked and hopefully answered by others who know alot more than I do about the different tools used in the trade. Feel free to use this topic to ask about the purpose of a vehicle regardless of region, the uses of equiptment, and the purpose of personnel. Hopefully others will have a good idea of what they do and what they are called.
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 09:53 PM
NYPD traffic unit is like the CHP
Maybe it is the language difference, but I'm curious what you mean. By NYPD Traffic, do you mean the NYPD Auxiliary unit pictured? By like, do you mean the vehicles are similar, even though one is a 2007 Chevy Impala and CHP uses Ford Crown Vics? Do you mean like as in similar lightbars, because yes they both do use Federal Signal Visions. Or do you mean like as in duties? NYPD Aux officers are more like the police in the original game in that they do not carry firearms, and their main function is as a reserve force to increase manpower in an area and assist the NYPD in general law enforcement duties. The CHP on the other hand are full time peace officers, carry firearms, and perform Law Enforcement duties on freeways, highways, and are contracted as the sole law enforcement for many outlying unincorporated areas. When they absorbed the California State Police, they also took over all duties as the sole State Police Agency.
The relationship between the NYPD auxiliary and the LA DOT Traffic and Parking Enforcement Bureau is very close though. The DOT officers do not carry firearms and respond to many police and fire incidents for traffic control, erect barricades, and the like. The major difference is that the Auxiliary acts more like an LAPD reserve officer and has much greater powers of arrest and responsibility then the DOT officers.
But I just don't see any correlation or similarity between the NYPD Auxiliary and the CHP in duty, size or function.
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Posted 07 May 2008 - 09:26 PM
The NYPD traffic unit is not like CHP. NYPD traffic units only do things like write tickets and direct traffic at busy intersections. I believe the reason they drive the dark blue police cars like the Ax. Officers is that they don't carry fire arms like the AUX. The NYPD unit that is most similar to CHP is the NYPD Highway patrol. They patrol the highways and in the NYPD's jurisdiction and provide law enforcement. Highway Patrol officers do carry firearms and have full police powers.NYPD traffic unit is like the CHP
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notice the extra pieces on the light bar, it's the eaisest way to identify one of the highway patroll units
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Posted 07 May 2008 - 09:52 PM
Off topic I realize, but isn't this all? lol
anyways what is that extra piece for?
anyways what is that extra piece for?
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 01:16 AM
Except for the two lights on top the car, I assume the rest is for better visibility. The two top lights I think are spotlights.Off topic I realize, but isn't this all? lol
anyways what is that extra piece for?
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 04:42 AM
The bar on the roof of the NYPD Highway Patrol is called something like a High-Riser, it is a pretty cool light, the thing has two arms that can tilt upward to give it better lighting visibility, one on each side. The NYPD Aux/Traffic are nadda like the Los Angeles units to me.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 05:11 AM
the lightbar looks like a cross between a vector and a twinsonic with some differences.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:07 AM
It's to my knowledge a Vision bar with an attatchment bar setup behind it that is a high-riser setup. Removed Pictures thanks to mikesphotos putting up the supplier's website.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:09 AM
The lightbar in question is made by the Julian A McDermott Corporation and is known, as mikeypi said, as the McDermott Hi-riser bar. You can see more pics and get more information on their old can style or newer LED style here
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 06:29 AM
Thank you, Mike's Photos I never knew who made the bar so you've educated me I just remember it from modelling it a long time ago. I did not know they made a LED varient either I figured they would recycle them as long as humanly possible. Thnx for posting more information on it, perhaps it will teach those who were interested in it about it :1046275747_biggthumpup:
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 02:09 PM
Srry for the late responce, I discoveredthe topic late.
I thaught (hopefully the correct past time op think) that NYPD Traffic and NYPD Highway patrol where the same
I thaught (hopefully the correct past time op think) that NYPD Traffic and NYPD Highway patrol where the same
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 07:25 PM
nope, like I said before, NYPD traffic writes tickets and handels the towing to NYPD impound. Highway Patrol is like a regular police officer who patrols the highway.Srry for the late responce, I discoveredthe topic late.
I thaught (hopefully the correct past time op think) that NYPD Traffic and NYPD Highway patrol where the same
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:22 PM
question for Mike, I found a video for a State Hospital ERT, and in the video, they appear to be sitting in a L.A. County Fire Helicopter (based on the paint scheme and the words L.A. County on the side). out of curiosity, what are they and what do they do?
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A quint is a pump with a ladder on top.Can somebody please tell me what the difference between a quint and an engine/pumper is?
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not really, a quint is like a cross between a pumper and a truckA quint is a pump with a ladder on top.
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 04:25 PM
not really, a quint is like a cross between a pumper and a truck
This also shows cross between a Pumper and Ladder.
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:46 PM
can anyone tell me the difference between a State Trooper and a Highway Patrolman? cause in Missouri, i found out today that MO Highway Patrol and Troopers have dif colored cars
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 08:16 PM
can anyone tell me the difference between a State Trooper and a Highway Patrolman? cause in Missouri, i found out today that MO Highway Patrol and Troopers have dif colored cars
Depending on the State... Trooper job handle any thing that is State Own.
If its not a State Highway?
Then its a Highway Patrol man thats hired for other Highways... Maybe it a local government?
Or that they are both own by the State but in 2 different departments.
Sometime the DOT would hire or have their own Highway Patrol Department.
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a quint is as follows:
The National Fire Protection Association has outlined the requirements for a piece of apparatus to function as a quint. The specifications come from the NFPA standard 1901, The Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus. Quint requirements are detailed in Chapter 9 of the standard, and are summarized below.
Fire pump
A pump with a minimum capacity of 1000 gpm (~4000 L/min).
Aerial device
An aerial ladder or elevating platform with a permanently installed waterway.
Water tank
A tank with a minimum capacity of 300 gallons (1100 L).
Equipment storage
A minimum of 40 cubic feet (1.1 cubic meters) of enclosed compartmentation.
Hose storage
A minimum of 30 cubic feet (.8 cubic meters) of storage area for 2.5 inch (65 mm) or larger fire hose.
Two areas, each with a minimum of 3.5 cubic feet (.1 cubic meters) for 1.5 inch (38 mm) or preconnected fire hose lines.
Ground ladders
A minimum of 85 feet (26 meters) of ground ladders, including at least:
One extension ladder
One roof ladder
One attic ladder
Suction hose
A minimum of 15 feet (4.5 meters) of soft suction hose or 20 feet (6 meters) of hard suction hose for drafting.
Minor equipment
Fire hose and nozzles
Hose
A minimum of 800 feet (240 meters) of 2.5 inch (65 mm) or larger fire hose.
A minimum of 400 feet (120 meters) of 1.5 inch (38 mm), 1.75 inch (45 mm), or 2 inch (52 mm) hose.
Nozzles
One combination spray nozzle, 200 gpm (750 L/min) minimum.
Two combination spray nozzles, 95 gpm (360 L/min) minimum.
One playpipe nozzle with shutoff and 1 inch (25 mm), 1.125 inch (29 mm), and 1.24 inch (32 mm) tips.
Miscellaneous equipment
One 6 pound flathead axe
One 6 pound pickhead axe
One 6 foot (2 meter) pike pole or plaster hook
One 8 foot (2.4 meter) or longer pike pole or plaster hook
Two portable hand lights
One dry chemical fire extinguisher with a minimum 80-B:C rating
One 2.5 gallon (9.5 L) or larger water extinguisher
One pump intake connection with supply-hose compatible threads
One SCBA for every seating position (minimum four)
One spare SCBA cylinder for every SCBA carried
One first aid kit
Four spanner wrenches
Two hydrant wrenches
Two double female adapters
Two double male adapters
One rubber mallet
Four salvage covers, each a minimum size of 12 feet x 14 feet (3.7 m x 4.3 m)
Four ladder belts
One 150 foot (45 meter) light-use safety rope
One 150 foot (45 meter) general-use safety rope
Two wheel chocks
we have 1 at Beaumont fire, and another on order to replace the one that was rolled over by a 17 y/o punk who stole it and flipped it because he was "cold and tired of walking".....not to worry he took the loooonnnggg way to the jail and that was more injuring then the rooling over of the quint...lol
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The National Fire Protection Association has outlined the requirements for a piece of apparatus to function as a quint. The specifications come from the NFPA standard 1901, The Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus. Quint requirements are detailed in Chapter 9 of the standard, and are summarized below.
Fire pump
A pump with a minimum capacity of 1000 gpm (~4000 L/min).
Aerial device
An aerial ladder or elevating platform with a permanently installed waterway.
Water tank
A tank with a minimum capacity of 300 gallons (1100 L).
Equipment storage
A minimum of 40 cubic feet (1.1 cubic meters) of enclosed compartmentation.
Hose storage
A minimum of 30 cubic feet (.8 cubic meters) of storage area for 2.5 inch (65 mm) or larger fire hose.
Two areas, each with a minimum of 3.5 cubic feet (.1 cubic meters) for 1.5 inch (38 mm) or preconnected fire hose lines.
Ground ladders
A minimum of 85 feet (26 meters) of ground ladders, including at least:
One extension ladder
One roof ladder
One attic ladder
Suction hose
A minimum of 15 feet (4.5 meters) of soft suction hose or 20 feet (6 meters) of hard suction hose for drafting.
Minor equipment
Fire hose and nozzles
Hose
A minimum of 800 feet (240 meters) of 2.5 inch (65 mm) or larger fire hose.
A minimum of 400 feet (120 meters) of 1.5 inch (38 mm), 1.75 inch (45 mm), or 2 inch (52 mm) hose.
Nozzles
One combination spray nozzle, 200 gpm (750 L/min) minimum.
Two combination spray nozzles, 95 gpm (360 L/min) minimum.
One playpipe nozzle with shutoff and 1 inch (25 mm), 1.125 inch (29 mm), and 1.24 inch (32 mm) tips.
Miscellaneous equipment
One 6 pound flathead axe
One 6 pound pickhead axe
One 6 foot (2 meter) pike pole or plaster hook
One 8 foot (2.4 meter) or longer pike pole or plaster hook
Two portable hand lights
One dry chemical fire extinguisher with a minimum 80-B:C rating
One 2.5 gallon (9.5 L) or larger water extinguisher
One pump intake connection with supply-hose compatible threads
One SCBA for every seating position (minimum four)
One spare SCBA cylinder for every SCBA carried
One first aid kit
Four spanner wrenches
Two hydrant wrenches
Two double female adapters
Two double male adapters
One rubber mallet
Four salvage covers, each a minimum size of 12 feet x 14 feet (3.7 m x 4.3 m)
Four ladder belts
One 150 foot (45 meter) light-use safety rope
One 150 foot (45 meter) general-use safety rope
Two wheel chocks
we have 1 at Beaumont fire, and another on order to replace the one that was rolled over by a 17 y/o punk who stole it and flipped it because he was "cold and tired of walking".....not to worry he took the loooonnnggg way to the jail and that was more injuring then the rooling over of the quint...lol
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