675 replies to this topic

[nick the greek]

Winterberg site sucks. You have to search many topics carefuly to find a download link(for the mod, for the translation it is very easy).

[bama1234]

Very nice pictures, Itaboy. Thank you!
I especially like the nypd pickup truck.



Here is my final fire truck. (new lightbars, lights flash faster; added new lights)
 EM4_2009_04_26_15_41_08_47.jpg   310.14KB   241 downloads
Please comment

[szron]

Nice!!!

edit: My bad... its ok xD

[pyrofreak]

Question.

Why aren't re-skins allowed? 100% complete and total creation of the LA Mod is given to you (Hoppah), and people aren't releasing your Mod with different vehicles so why not allow re-skins to be shared. It's not like there doing any different work then you, and it takes true talent to do what they've done. Not to mention theoretically speaking all US engines are similar in design, so by saying "design your own models and we'll see", that's a round about statement that doesn't end.

Plus, LA? I mean really whats so special about LA wild fires? Drug addicts, yeah its a big city but no one cares about it. Your from another country granted, but how many immigrants come to America and say "Lets go to LA!" none. If LA was so important they'd have made a series about it, have they? Lets see, Fire House USA (Boston), and Rescue me (NY), nope don't see LA anywhere.

No offense, your works nice and all but this is an insult by not allowing other cities to share. Call it like you want, people don't like the truth but its time someone said something. I'm tired of people saying well we don't like it but what can we do.

[bsbllthirteen]

Question.

Why aren't re-skins allowed? 100% complete and total creation of the LA Mod is given to you (Hoppah), and people aren't releasing your Mod with different vehicles so why not allow re-skins to be shared. It's not like there doing any different work then you, and it takes true talent to do what they've done. Not to mention theoretically speaking all US engines are similar in design, so by saying "design your own models and we'll see", that's a round about statement that doesn't end.

Plus, LA? I mean really whats so special about LA wild fires? Drug addicts, yeah its a big city but no one cares about it. Your from another country granted, but how many immigrants come to America and say "Lets go to LA!" none. If LA was so important they'd have made a series about it, have they? Lets see, Fire House USA (Boston), and Rescue me (NY), nope don't see LA anywhere.

No offense, your works nice and all but this is an insult by not allowing other cities to share. Call it like you want, people don't like the truth but its time someone said something. I'm tired of people saying well we don't like it but what can we do.

a little harsh dont yah think and hoppah made the mod so he can say what he wants when it comes to what people do with his work. and if you spent hours and hours to make something nice why would you want people just taking the easy way out and using your models to make there own

[bama1234]

a little harsh dont yah think and hoppah made the mod so he can say what he wants when it comes to what people do with his work. and if you spent hours and hours to make something nice why would you want people just taking the easy way out and using your models to make there own

I agree. A little harsh there, pyro. But we must respect Hoppahs decisions.

It would be nice if this were allowed as an official submod, like a one-time thing. My reskin mod is currently the only New York sort of thing available right now, and it is very high quality.

[Newfoundking]

The reason there isn't re skins, is because he worked hard and just giving it up would be pointless, because reskinning is EXTREMELY easy.

Secondly, he could've and still can stop the LA mod FOREVER, which means its all gone. Be happy with what you got. He chose LA because he felt like it, there doesn't have to be an explanation, if you don't like it, then don't use it. He made it and can decide what he wants done with it.

[bama1234]

The reason there isn't re skins, is because he worked hard and just giving it up would be pointless, because reskinning is EXTREMELY easy.

Secondly, he could've and still can stop the LA mod FOREVER, which means its all gone. Be happy with what you got. He chose LA because he felt like it, there doesn't have to be an explanation, if you don't like it, then don't use it. He made it and can decide what he wants done with it.

Exactly. But reskins arent as easy as you think, and besides that, I have done more than reskins. Lights, changing models, user interface, etc.

[Soldjaboy]

Retarded post......

I'm sorry, Hoppah, but I think it was a big mistake for you or Stan to allow people to advertise their reskins on the forum. Look at what it has started.

Pyro....Why don't you go put yourself in Hoppah's shoes and have a group of people butcher your mod. Then you will know how it feels. No offense, to all of you skinners out there, but geez....

Oh and Bama.....You did nothing but change Hoppah's model....That engine looks nothing like a Seagrave. Lights are easy too, btw, just time consuming.....

[bama1234]

I am not trying to start anything at all.

And once again, I respect Hoppah's work and will not release this without his permission.

Reskins are NOT easy in the sense that they take TONS of time and experience. I do that, lights, a tiny bit of modelling, and a tiny bit of scripting.

If Stan feels that this topic is just a pest, then he can close it if he wishes, if that is what he wants.

[pyrofreak]

I posted what I did for a reason.

Hoppah's work is spectacular, regardless of how easy or hard some areas might be. Its amazing how someone can script, or even create their own mod such as this. Which is why I said no one except him should be allowed the 100% credit, re-skins are nice but what I'm saying is its a re-skin. Not much credit is given, its not a drastic change its more ascetics (appearance).

I just think re-skins of high quality, not crap, should be recognized. I understand it may be "easy" but you can tell who put the time and effort into it, and who didn't.

But, I'll leave it be at that. I don't wish to cause a war, or something to happen on Bama's thread. His re-skins are amazing even if their easy to do, their still high quality to me.

And, Soldjaboy. I wouldn't be talking about retarded people, you don't EVEN want to go there.

[jab16]

Very nice pictures, Itaboy. Thank you!
I especially like the nypd pickup truck.



Here is my final fire truck. (new lightbars, lights flash faster; added new lights)
 EM4_2009_04_26_15_41_08_47.jpg   310.14KB   241 downloads
Please comment

how hard are lightbars and have you tried to make a station cause i am wanting to make one but i am not sure how hard it is?

[bama1234]

how hard are lightbars and have you tried to make a station cause i am wanting to make one but i am not sure how hard it is?

no, i have not tried a custom station, but I know it requires scripting. Lightbars are easy, I just dont know how to UV map.

[MikeyPI]

Everyone Play nicely and the topic stays open... No offense to the skinners, but the UV mapping and the modeling are the worst that you have to do, generally speaking for a "simple" model it is not so hard to create, but creating a skin from a blank file is extremely time consuming, then adding a UV map to the model for it's mesh is extremely time consuming, that is generally why most people who spent time creating models wish that other people will try to do their own. It is true, and reasonable to believe that sometimes you need an exact 1/1 of a model so it would not make sense to have to create a totally new model for a crown vic when there already is one.

I do not care what city you do, there is ALWAYS something you can create to make a mod your own, and that's generally what most modelers want people to attempt to do. The nyc private mod has spent a good deal of time trying to re-create the feel of ny, but with custom models that were specifically built to be NYC that would make it that much more... That is generally what I think most people want to see, is to see the mods try to go that extra step and get some of the unique things that increase the realism of their mod. Some vehicles there is NO reason what so ever that one should have to re-build, that would be totally illogical, but in the end, spending time myself creating models I would have to say that it is something you HAVE to be comitted to. If you do it though it definately increases the realism having the vehicle be 100% accurate.

For example, when I started the FBI Mobile Command Vehicle it was based on the one from D.C. because I figured it was the same... whoops=) Having done both truck models by mistake, I have to totally admit that there is absolutely NO WAY the LA version would ever accurately appear to be the one from D.C. That is the sad truth with a reskin, sometimes you can't replicate what you need to without a new model so you have to create new models.

[jab16]

how much time do you spend on each model just out of curosity?

[bama1234]

how much time do you spend on each model just out of curosity?

roughly an hour for just a reskin, overall on the Fire truck I think I have spent over 5 hours, for the lightbars and final skins etc. The police were the hardest, Ive spent countless hours on those.

[DamageInc251]

The reason there isn't re skins, is because he worked hard and just giving it up would be pointless, because reskinning is EXTREMELY easy.

I beg to differ on that, I've skinned for a bunch of games and some of them were near impossible to skin. And to get everything lined up right and everything takes some work. I wish I could get photoshop to work with dds files so I can see how the skinning process is on here so I can make my own variations.

[bama1234]

The reason there isn't re skins, is because he worked hard and just giving it up would be pointless, because reskinning is EXTREMELY easy.

I beg to differ on that, I've skinned for a punch of games and some of them were near impossible to skin. And to get everything lined up right and everything takes some work. I wish I could get photoshop to work with dds files so I can see how the skinning process is on here so I can make my own variations.

Well guys, it depends on how you look at it. Re-skinning can be a cakewalk sometimes while at others it can be as hard as building a nuclear power generator.

But give the LA mod team some credit, they have worked ten times harder than me.