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[pyrothijs]

i like the idea of foot patroling units! but it would take alot of time before they spread out around in the city..

I'm not sure if it is possible, but it could be an idea to create the officers as pedestrians. That way the would randomly show up, walk a route and disapper from the map again. But I don't know if you are able to give commands to the pedestrians appearing on the fixed routes.
Maybe something to look in too...

greetz,

[MikesPhotos]

I have a few segestions for the next version...

Maybe re model the LA police SUV to be more of a suburban or Tahoe since I personally haven't ever seen a ford SUV police car

For the most part, LAPD does use Suburbans for 99% of their SUV's, but they do have a few Ford Explorers that I've seen with their K9 units, Bomb Squad (though most are white Suburbans), and Off Road enforcement. Since you've never seen one, check out this pic at Police Car online to see an LAPD Ford Explorer. Yes, they do exist, but they are rare compared to the others.

Also maybe a new version of the engineer vehicle> its a great design but looks a bit out dated since most places now use a combinations of pick up trucks and SUV's more then Vans. Also maybe a re skin of the Tow Truck.

Just curious what places are those? On my daily run today, I passed by 3 CALTRANS (California Department of Transportation) vans, 3 LA DOT (Los Angeles City Department of Transportation) vans, and 1 LA DWP (Los Angeles City Department of Water and Power) van. I didn't see any SUV's, and only 1 pickup truck driven by a DOT engineer. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a DOT SUV, the closest would be a Rec's and Park one at Griffith park. It's almost always the older style van as seen in the game, or a cherry picker/work utility large truck.

As for maybe a idea for a mission, I definatly think a Large car crash would be alot of fun... A major one, there have been a number of fog/smoke/white out situations which have caused huge pile ups. that might be a fun idea.

I personally like the idea of a large Traffic Collision. While they are far far far more common in the rest of the US, they're pretty rare in Los Angeles. While we do get fog along the beaches and coast at times, even while living in Huntington Beach, you'd only get 2 or 3 vehicles involved. We really just don't have the weather issues other places do. No snow for white out and fog isn't too much of a problem simply because we have so much traffic driving around that it clears the freeways and streets. One of the most amazing sights is to drive on the 405 freeway through Seal beach and have the lanes be completely clear but it is socked in 0 visibility on either side of it.

If I was to guess the cause of a major collision like that, I'd go with a few out of recent memory. A few weeks back we had a wrong way driver that went head on with a Semi on the 118 freeway. Multiple cars involved, took out the center divider, and lit the brush along the freeway on fire as well. On the I5 not to long ago there was a bad Semi accident and fire in the I5/I14 truck tunnel that involved a number of vehicles and forced a rebuild of the tunnel. PCH in Malibu gets quite a few bad head on collisions as well as rock slides/mudslide. Due to traffic and the nature of the two lane road, most accidents there tend to be 2 or 3 vehicles at most, and it's also Counties area for much of the stretch.

[Madman]

I still think the best addition to the game would be a "Fog of War" type feature.

That way I have to send units to the scene and then asses the situation and not just know exactly what is going on before. They way I play now, I send a certain amount of vehicles to a call no matter what it actually is and then clear extra units when they arrive.

[MCERT1]

Ok, time to come back with a few more Ideas, small ones I've developed through personalization:
1. Change the SAR Dog Unit/vehicle and or make a Sheriff Dept. SAR Dog and handler (Just use the sheriff deputy with traffic vest skin)...then make them transported in the Sheriff Dept. SAR Hummer.
2. Let the USFS engine and maybe the brush patrol carry a portable pump. (I know it wouldn't be unique, but they're incredibly useful in fighting forest fires before they get out of control).

Also I support the calls for an LACoFD Engine.

[hiltzy]

I think it would be cool when a call comes in. that you recieve a tone. possibly a hi-lo tone or pager beeps. something like in EM3. I dont think that would be too hard to add. but who knows. just an idea.

[firefighter111]

I think it would be cool when a call comes in. that you recieve a tone. possibly a hi-lo tone or pager beeps. something like in EM3. I dont think that would be too hard to add. but who knows. just an idea.

Hoppah, you should add station 51's tones from the old tv show emergency. I would like to see an unmarked SUV in the mod, but since I couldn't find a pic of one, Mike is going to let us know if they actually exists.

[MikesPhotos]

I think it would be cool when a call comes in. that you recieve a tone. possibly a hi-lo tone or pager beeps. something like in EM3. I dont think that would be too hard to add. but who knows. just an idea.

LAFD stations use a Digital Voice Dispatch system by Locution Systems. In the station you hear a solid alerting tone followed by the digitized voice dispatch. You can hear an example of it in this video on myspace along with Command traffic. Notice how he doesn't ask for additional alarms but asks for task forces and RA's.

The only beeps are from the mdt's waiting for acknowledgement/enroute. Neither City nor County use pagers for their regular personal.

Hoppah, you should add station 51's tones from the old tv show emergency. I would like to see an unmarked SUV in the mod, but since I couldn't find a pic of one, Mike is going to let us know if they actually exists.

Remember, Emergency! was representative of the Los Angeles County Fire Department, not city. As far as I am aware, Los Angeles City has never had those kind of tones. While LACoFD has changed their system in recent years, they still do utilize a tone-out system for major incidents like structure and brush fires. You can hear an example of the tones for a brush fire here I warn you first, TURN DOWN the volume! It's enough to wake the dead and piss off the neighbors dog. The basic rule of thumb, the more tones you hear, the bigger the incident. A normal structure fire would just have the ones for the Battalion Chiefs, in this one you hear the county copters, chiefs, special units, camps, and others.

As far as the unmarked SUV goes, let me first start out by saying that when it comes to unmarked, virtually anything can go! You have so many different special groups in the LAPD that utilize something other then the standard black and white patrol cars. From Narco to SIS to detectives and crime lab officers, you are going to find a great mix of vehicles that don't conform to the general marked units. Now, there is a big difference between unmarked and undercover! Not everyone gets lights and sirens, and not everyone gets a crown vic or something that looks official. I've seen more then a few Narcotics units driving Land Rovers and Acura's simply because their whole point is not to be identifiable. For standard detective units and such, they usually drive an unmarked crown vic as I've mentioned before, but they also show up in vehicles like this one in the middle that had no emergency lighting but held 2 LAPD detectives. One thing to note though, since I'm sure someone will ask for it to be covered in a billion blinky lights, these vehicles, when outfitted with emergency lights, will rarely have more then a visor/dash light to the front with a steady burn red/blue flashing light, and maybe corner strobes or some other minor warning light. Sorry guys, we're just not a big blinky light place.

[C.F.D]

Mike, i was watching Family Jewels ( Gene Simmons Reality Show) Last night, and i was shocked....there was one scene where Nick ( Gene's Son) was having a party, and an LAPD cruiser pulled in, with Side Mirror LED activated.

Are they using a Prop or LAPD does actually use Side Mirror LED? Try Hollywood Division.

Keep in mind that Simmons confirms show is unscripted.

[MikesPhotos]

LAPD cruiser pulled in, with Side Mirror LED activated.

Are they using a Prop or LAPD does actually use Side Mirror LED? Try Hollywood Division.

Keep in mind that Simmons confirms show is unscripted.

You'll have to post a pic/video of the vehicle in question. I can tell you that I spend about half of my week in Hollywood division and due to County covering West Hollywood, we run mutual aid into both areas quite often. In all of that time, I've never seen anything but a standard LAPD unit that we've all seen thousands of pics of. Without seeing it, I can't say what it is, who it belongs to, or why it was there.

Also in regards to that show being unscripted, well... I guess the magic of Hollywood is still alive!

[C.F.D]

I can't find the video of it, you can watch on A&E, Family Jewels, maybe that episode will come back.


Seriously dude, i think it's a prop.

Black officer, Sgt, pulls in with a 2004 Crown Vic, New light bar and side mirror LED.

[firefighter111]

LAFD stations use a Digital Voice Dispatch system by Locution Systems. In the station you hear a solid alerting tone followed by the digitized voice dispatch. You can hear an example of it in this video on myspace along with Command traffic. Notice how he doesn't ask for additional alarms but asks for task forces and RA's.

The only beeps are from the mdt's waiting for acknowledgement/enroute. Neither City nor County use pagers for their regular personal.



Remember, Emergency! was representative of the Los Angeles County Fire Department, not city. As far as I am aware, Los Angeles City has never had those kind of tones. While LACoFD has changed their system in recent years, they still do utilize a tone-out system for major incidents like structure and brush fires. You can hear an example of the tones for a brush fire here I warn you first, TURN DOWN the volume! It's enough to wake the dead and piss off the neighbors dog. The basic rule of thumb, the more tones you hear, the bigger the incident. A normal structure fire would just have the ones for the Battalion Chiefs, in this one you hear the county copters, chiefs, special units, camps, and others.

As far as the unmarked SUV goes, let me first start out by saying that when it comes to unmarked, virtually anything can go! You have so many different special groups in the LAPD that utilize something other then the standard black and white patrol cars. From Narco to SIS to detectives and crime lab officers, you are going to find a great mix of vehicles that don't conform to the general marked units. Now, there is a big difference between unmarked and undercover! Not everyone gets lights and sirens, and not everyone gets a crown vic or something that looks official. I've seen more then a few Narcotics units driving Land Rovers and Acura's simply because their whole point is not to be identifiable. For standard detective units and such, they usually drive an unmarked crown vic as I've mentioned before, but they also show up in vehicles like this one in the middle that had no emergency lighting but held 2 LAPD detectives. One thing to note though, since I'm sure someone will ask for it to be covered in a billion blinky lights, these vehicles, when outfitted with emergency lights, will rarely have more then a visor/dash light to the front with a steady burn red/blue flashing light, and maybe corner strobes or some other minor warning light. Sorry guys, we're just not a big blinky light place.

Mike, one question, doesn't the steady burn light kinda ruin the undercover effect? Because if I was involved in illict activities(hypothetically) doesn't the steady burn light act like a big neon sign with an arrow that says "Cops are Here", and obviously, I wouldn't carry out my illict activities. Also, I think I remember seeing a pic somewhere of an armored car company that made an unmarked armored pickup truck for LAPD swat

[MikesPhotos]

I found a video of the Lafd getting dispatched Also what does the class mean on the side of the truck?

Heh, I haven't seen that in a while. They actually kind of fibbed a bit and used a Voice Dispatch instead of the Digital Voice system since with a filming like that, it'd be too much of a hassle to have dispatch constantly run it over and over and over again.

Mike, one question, doesn't the steady burn light kinda ruin the undercover effect? Because if I was involved in illict activities(hypothetically) doesn't the steady burn light act like a big neon sign with an arrow that says "Cops are Here", and obviously, I wouldn't carry out my illict activities. Also, I think I remember seeing a pic somewhere of an armored car company that made an unmarked armored pickup truck for LAPD swat

The steady burn light is just like any other emergency light on the vehicle. It is only activated when you are involved in a situation the would require emergency lights and sirens. I think you may have it confused with what are called "cruise lights" which are small semi-dim lights inside of a lightbar that remain on constantly to make the vehicle more noticeable. These are typically found in Code 3 products used by security vehicles at malls and shopping centers.

Mike

[MikeyPI]

The old LAPD CRASH cars used to have steady burns if I am not mistaken, but the steady burns just turn on when the emergency lights go on as mike said, just like any other aux light you can cut them off with the flip of a switch. In the end the best cars for being discreet are the narco cars for example which tend to be "borrowed" from the impound lot, cars that either the owner will never claim or cars that have been siezed for one reason or another. Pretty much everywhere in the US practices this kind of behavior since it gives them a car that does not look like a cop car that will allow them to hide pretty well. Some cases they use their civilian cars but that is not as common for insurance issues and things of that nature, besides you would not want to be detected as a cop and have the criminals you just chased down knowing your civil car. Mike is correct that most of those vehicles do not carry auxilliary lighting, it is fairly hard to do a drug deal on the corner if you have a christmas tree of a car, chances are your mark will notice the lights.

[firefighter111]

Heh, I haven't seen that in a while. They actually kind of fibbed a bit and used a Voice Dispatch instead of the Digital Voice system since with a filming like that, it'd be too much of a hassle to have dispatch constantly run it over and over and over again.



The steady burn light is just like any other emergency light on the vehicle. It is only activated when you are involved in a situation the would require emergency lights and sirens. I think you may have it confused with what are called "cruise lights" which are small semi-dim lights inside of a lightbar that remain on constantly to make the vehicle more noticeable. These are typically found in Code 3 products used by security vehicles at malls and shopping centers.

Mike

Thanks, I didn't realize that they only turned on when you activate the rest of the emergency lights.

[MikesPhotos]

I found a video of the Lafd getting dispatched Also what does the class mean on the side of the truck?

Whoops, I missed part of the question. The Class 1 rating is an ISO (Insurance Services Office) rating that insurers have in the past, and possibly still do, base insurance premiums and rates on. LAFD is no longer a Class 1 city, and very few across the nation are, as the classes are based on a wide variety of factors and elements that are almost impossible for a large city with a brush area to meet. You can read more about it as well as commentary from LAFD's own PIO Brian Humprhey here.