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[MikesPhotos]

Great pictures Mike! Why was Hazmat on scene? I will take a closer look at the pictures when

I have some more time.

Glad you like them Hoppah, the thumbnails don't really do them justice at all! As I Mentioned in the main mod thread, the HAZMAT squad is more then just for HAZMATs much the way the USAR rig doesn't just go to USAR calls! LAFD HAZMAT squads respond to all structure fires within a mile of their fire station, as well as to various other calls to perform various duties such as RIC (rapid intervention crew) or just as additional manpower.

Oh and. I just saw this vehicle:
http://www.mikesphot...tment?g2_page=2
That's one of coolest police SUV's I've ever seen! Want to replace my LAPD SUV (which

actually doesn't exist) now!
But, Isn't LA County Police Department the same as LA Sheriff's Department? Because I can't

find any information about LACoPD.

Ah yes, this is a question I hear quite often in fact! No the Los Angeles County Police Department is not the same, nor affiliated with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. In fact, they are two very distinct and separate agencies! It's official name is the Los Angeles County Office of Public Safety and they were formed when the County merged the Park Police, Department of Health Services’s Police, and Internal Services Department’s Safety Police to form one agency.

You can read more about them here.

Mostly they provide security and law enforcement at county owned property such as hospitals, parks, and government buildings. The Los Angeles County Sheriffs department still handles routine law enforcement duties in unincorporated areas, as well as contract cities. They're also in charge of the county jails, court buildings, and other duties typical of a sheriffs department.

As for the LAPD Ford Explorer, I've seen quite a few, but only for K9 Units that I can recollect. I do know they did have Jeeps down in the Venice beach area when I lived there in the mid 90s.

Mike

[police189]

But does the county police out there actually patrol or they just do patrol of parks ,government areas,ect?

[Spaloo]

But does the county police out there actually patrol or they just do patrol of parks ,government areas,ect?

LA County Sheriff does patrol work for unincorporated areas and contracted cities (alot of areas, in fact). LA County Police generally does security work. They have "patrol cars" but generally stay within the confines of their designated areas (parks, county hospitals and buildings, etc)

Mike,

How does OES fall into the grand scheme of things? Do they have there own firefighters or do they just provide engines for departments to staff in the case of strike teams? Also, if there not on a state emergency, can the individual department run the engine on calls as if it was there own? Do you know Brian Humphrey per chance? He is an old friend of mine.

I'm not Mike, but I think I can field this one. OES provides equipment such as fire engines to certain fire departments. It is the fire departments' duty to staff the engines and man the equipment. The only dept I was familiar wth that had an OES engine was La Habra Heights FD, and I know they did not use the OES engine except when requested to do so by the state.

[james23222000]

Do LAFD have water tenders with water cannons on top of them?

[Hoppah]

No, my Water Tender is based on a LAFD Foam Tender.
If I'm not wrong, LAFD Engine's have a watercannon on top of the engine.
But I can't combine a water cannon with hose connections, so the engine's in my mod are for the hoses and the water tender have the cannon.

@ Mikesphoto's:
Why is your website offline?
I just wanted to start with changing the vehicles.

[Bernt]

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http://mikesphotos.us/ He's back!!!!

[Hoppah]

Mike, I need your help again.

This is a watercannon, right?
My fire engine's don't have it and I want to model it on them.
I probably can't make it work ingame, but it will look nice nevertheless.
Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

[MikesPhotos]

Hi everyone, I am indeed back! I had a great vacation at disneyland and brought in the new year right!

Mike, how much did your hits grow since you are on this forum ?

Honestly, not to much. The malibu fire pics I posted slammed my server big time though due to the news attention they recieved. I average about 4 to 6k hits a day, but that was hitting about 15! 72% through search engines, 11% direct.

But does the county police out there actually patrol or they just do patrol of parks ,government areas,ect?

LA County Sheriff does patrol work for unincorporated areas and contracted cities (alot of areas, in fact). LA County Police generally does security work. They have "patrol cars" but generally stay within the confines of their designated areas (parks, county hospitals and buildings, etc)

Spaloo is correct once again. While they are all sworn police officers, POST level I, they mostly provide security details and park patrols. In the game, they would be the ones who would respond to fights and such at the Hospital on the map.

Mike,

How does OES fall into the grand scheme of things? Do they have there own firefighters or do they just provide engines for departments to staff in the case of strike teams? Also, if there not on a state emergency, can the individual department run the engine on calls as if it was there own? Do you know Brian Humphrey per chance? He is an old friend of mine.

I'm not Mike, but I think I can field this one. OES provides equipment such as fire engines to certain fire departments. It is the fire departments' duty to staff the engines and man the equipment. The only dept I was familiar wth that had an OES engine was La Habra Heights FD, and I know they did not use the OES engine except when requested to do so by the state.

The California Office of Emergency Services is a separate agency that reports directly to the governor of california. It's primary responsibilities involve coordination of local, state and federal agencies to best affect the State's Emergency Plan. The provide overhead, funding, and equipment amongst other services to all large incidents and disasters in this state. What you are probably referring to and what Spaloo commented on are the yellow OES Engines and Water Tenders. The OES has a program in which various agencies throughout the state, both Career and Volunteer recieve Engines and Water Tenders under specific rules and guidelines. The way the program works is that the department gets the apparatus under the agreement that it will NOT be used as a front line apparatus, but can be used for Reserve, temp staffing, and to cover a station. All staffing is done by the local government agency (the fire dept that gets the apparatus) and all repair and maintenance over $100 is paid for by the state.

When a major emergency occurs, the OES will notify the local agency to staff the apparatus and form up into a local area strike team to head to the emergency. Most departments have no more then 1 or 2 OES apparatus, and so a local area strike team will normally have 5 engines from 5 different agencies under the command of a local Battalion Chief. This way the incident gets the necessary resources, but no one agency is left depleted and with empty stations.

As for the Venerable and Esteemed Brian Humphrey.. No I do not know him personally. We have conversed via email and on message groups a few times but that is the extent. For those who do not know the name, Brian Humphrey is the amazing and truly gifted PIO/FIO of the Los Angeles City Fire Department. A Firefighter III/Specialist, his breadth of knowledge and his skill at his job is second to none. He has been such a gift to that department and to the fire service as a whole that those of us who live in this area owe him a large measure of gratitude. His name and that of Bill Peters of the California Dept of Forestry and Fire Protection are truly revered amongst those who even consider being a PIO/FIO.

Do LAFD have water tenders with water cannons on top of them?

No, my Water Tender is based on a LAFD Foam Tender.
If I'm not wrong, LAFD Engine's have a watercannon on top of the engine.
But I can't combine a water cannon with hose connections, so the engine's in my mod are for the hoses and the water tender have the cannon.

Hoppah answered this one correctly. All Engines do have a Deck gun, but the water tenders do not.

@ Mikesphoto's:
Why is your website offline?
I just wanted to start with changing the vehicles.

Unfortunatly, the best laid plans of mice and men do often go awry! We got struck with a powerful winter rain storm here in the Los Angeles area that knocked out power to my area for quite a bit. On top of that, my backup host in the Midwest also went down due to snow!

Hopefully everything is back up and running now, and I am home as well!

Mike

[Mrtucker555]

Mike, I need your help again.

This is a watercannon, right?
My fire engine's don't have it and I want to model it on them.
I probably can't make it work ingame, but it will look nice nevertheless.
Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

hoppah those are moniters they are water turrets that are on top of the truck but may also be removed and put on the ground if needed here is what they look like and as you can see they are attached to a hose so firefighters can take them and move them http://www.pokfire.c...nitor/poket.jpg

[MikesPhotos]

Mike, I need your help again.
This is a watercannon, right?
My fire engine's don't have it and I want to model it on them.
I probably can't make it work ingame, but it will look nice nevertheless.
Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

That is indeed the deck gun! Mounted midship above the pump on every Fire Engine in the LA City and County fleet, they provide a powerful stream of water for use in defensive firefighting operations. Commonly used to extinguish trash fires safely, they can also be dismounted and placed on the ground around a building as a manned or unmanned "monitor." You can see great video of a deck gun competition back east here. For an arcticle on Deck Gun drills that may provide you with some more insight, and perhaps give some ideas to the Firefighters on this page, check out this one from Fire Engineering Magazine.

As for better pics of it, my next shift is tommorow and I'll try and grab some close up shots of it for you. You can bassically see it on every engine pic I have though, but here is a shot from a friend of mine on his own website of the deck gun in action on a Burbank FD rig.

I'll let you know when the additional pics are added.

Mike

[MikesPhotos]

Do you some better pictures or more information about that thing?

Thanks,

Hoppah

Ask and you shall receive! Just got done editing the pictures from yesterday and took a bunch just for you Hoppah. Check out this link and be sure to click on the TC with injuries albumlink as well to see close ups of the Deck gun. FS125 be drilling on it sometime this month so i'll be getting some shots of that as soon as it happens. There is also a forcecible entry and truck work drill coming up in Station 16s area that I have scheduled.

Normally E125 mounts a Brush Nozzle on it due to the area, but you can mount many different kinds that affect the Gallons Per Minute that comes out of it. The largest one we have is around 600gpm which still allows us to pull 2 lines off the rig since we can pump about 1000gpm without a problem.

Also I found out that they changed the County's protocols and we no longer remove the deck gun from the engines for use as a ground monitor. There was a problem or something somewhere, no one really knew why, but we've been directed that they're to remain attached to the engine. For ground monitors, we can take the nozzle off the Quints and Trucks and mount it on a stand for that kind of work which makes sense and is much easier actually.

Also check out this link to see pics of LACoFD's Q125 with the cab tilted foreward.

Here are also two shots that I did NOT take of LAFD apparatus with its cab tilted:
Engine and Truck 48
E48 and E64

Mike

P.S ...

One thing I forgot to mention, I also took some shots of the investigating CHP officer so you could see the uniform as well as a shot of the Polar Bear (White slicktop crown vic CHP commercial enforcement vehicle) that had a new light set up that I have not come across before. Rear view mirror had dual led steady burn red and fast flashing blue with non alternating flashing leds at angles on the front border. To the rear it had an arrowbar with red and blue end lights instead of the general all amber with blue and red lights mounted above it.

[Hoppah]

Great pictures. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your help. Thanks thanks thanks.

[MikesPhotos]

Great pictures. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your help. Thanks thanks thanks.

You're quite welcome. Hopefully those will help with your next update. I remembered seeing this pic on flickr before and I finally tracked it down. It's of an LAFD Pierce flowing the deck gun on olympic blvd.

Note: NOT one of my pics.

[MikesPhotos]

Hey what is the purpose of This truck?

It looks cool lol

Communications on large scale incidents is one of the largest priorities and headeaches faced by the fire service throughout the nation. Here in Los Angeles, it is compounded due to the fact that we have so many agencies that work so closely together and yet are unable to speak directly to each other. LACoFD is on a 470mhz UHF-T system, LAFD is on an 800mhz conventional system, USFS is on VHF High, and many others are on the new ICIS trunked system like Burbank and Culver City. Slowly but surely, all of th departments are working diligently together to link up their communications for the future, but that takes time, money and infrastructure that just doesn't exist quite yet.

Because of that, large departments like the LAFD have purchased special vehicles that can respond to an incident and supplement the communication needs of that incident. By having a radio that covers every band, Computer terminals, patch capabilities and other tools, it gives the Incident Commander the ability to effectively communicate with everyone on the incident. LAFD has both the Communications Interoperability Units and volunteer HAM based Auxillary Communication Services units. You can find pics of both on my site at:
CIU
ACS

Mike

[MikesPhotos]

on the last picture of the ACS it says "museum", does the truck then actually gets used or is it in a museus?

The sign on the door was due to the picture being taken at the Van Nuys Air Fest. They were promoting both the LAFD Recruitment efforts and the Historical Museum.

[MikesPhotos]

Hey Hoppah, I just wanted to give you a heads up about the latest batch of pics I posted on my website. These are from an Apartment house fire in LAFD's 88's area. Battalion 10, EMS 10, Light Force 102, Light Force 88, Engine 78, Taskforce 39, Rescue Ambulance 88 and 78 were on scene. You can view all 95 pics here

But just some things to point out:
LAFD-VDM-002 & 003 <-- LAFD Paramedics changing into SCBA and turnout gear

008 & 009, 099. 100, 105, 107, 114 <-- Battalion Chief with White Helmet and old style brush jacket and black pants, EMS 10 Captain with Structure Jacket. You can tell the difference between the Structure and the Brush gear from the rear by the Reflective striping. Structure gear has the Square Box, Brush gear just has the horizontal stripes. One thing to note in 99 is the Captain Driver in the BC SUV. He is bassically the assistant to the Chief and does everything from monitoring the radios, watching the clocks, and acting as an additional set of eyes and ears on the incident. The biggest reason for drivers is that it allows the Chief to focus on the radios, computer, maps and such while enroute since the captain is driving.

010,097,098, 109, 110 <--- Deck gun on Engine 239 (part of Light Force 39) with the long smooth bore nozzle on it.

013 & 014 & 120<-- Rear of Truck 102 with arrow bar at the top of the tillermans cab.

019 <-- No arrow bar at all on T88, so you can pretty much choose whether or not to have one on your truck

021 <-- Firefighters on the left have changed into a brush jacket just for comfort while packing up their gear, Firefighters on the right have Structure gear on. The brush jacket is light weight and feels almost like a long sleeve shirt.

022 <-- Close up of the SCBA gear, notice the firemans axe on the hip.

051 <-- 3 different angles of the Phenix helmet. Orange signifies Captain.

059 <-- Captain on the right with EM10 on his helmet and wearing the black pants is the EMS Captain

063 <-- Never seen anyone do this before, but jacket sleave has the old unofficial patch with PARAMEDIC under it. That was something new to me, even for an EMS Capt.!

092 through 096 <-- Close up of Deck gun on E288

Hope these help.

Mike