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#1921 BeastyBill88

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 02:04 PM

So the topic went from shotguns to tasers to alpacas hahaha


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 03:20 PM

Is the rabies dog attack really realistic, I mean one, would they call an arv or just an animal agency, and two I think it's very rare, will you be taking it out of the calls lost on the new map??

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 03:22 PM

Is the rabies dog attack really realistic, I mean one, would they call an arv or just an animal agency, and two I think it's very rare, will you be taking it out of the calls lost on the new map??


I agree with you


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 03:31 PM

I agree with you


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From speaking to some ARV officers and Dog section officers a dog section unit would attend and then they make the call that if they feel that the dog is in putting members of the publics life's in danger then the call has to be made and the animal will get put down.... They can't really wait for a animal service to come when the rabid dog is endangering life's so a ARV officer will come and swiftly put the dog to sleep. It's like if a cow escapes from a cattle box when the vehicle is broken down, a armed response officer will respond as well and of the cow manages to wonder onto the live carriageway then it would get shot


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:07 PM

Will it be possible to make a alpaca farm on the new map ((I love alpacas))

Unfortunately there is no Alpaca model/animations - I could make my own model but wouldn't be able to make the animations for it, otherwise I would be tempted to add it :D

 

Is the rabies dog attack really realistic, I mean one, would they call an arv or just an animal agency, and two I think it's very rare, will you be taking it out of the calls lost on the new map??

I may not be removing it but instead making it a lot rarer than it currently is.


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:14 PM

Maybe have pepper spray that damages animals? PCSOs have that type.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:16 PM

Maybe have pepper spray that damages animals? PCSOs have that type.


I know this isn't Canada but the Canadian K-9 units have special spray that subdues dogs


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:20 PM

Yeah, that spray works on the same basis. Or have RSPCA respond to subdue the dog somehow?

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:29 PM

Lol alpacas! That's new :)
Wonder why there's no models or animations of alpacas?

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 06:27 PM

Here where I live when I was with the dog warden years ago there's different souloutions just depends on the situation really.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 06:43 PM

How about Community Wardens they deal with parking, dog's and noise complaints



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 07:11 PM

Ok so I've got some suggestions/ questions:

I believe that the dog section have nooses attached to poles, so is it possible for u to capture the dog, create a dog section station and then put the dog attached to the noose into the car and take it to dog police station?

What about on the alarm computer, there are options, for instance you could label a button BA crew and then you would two fire fighters dress into kit and then BA, one in normal clothes drive and the officer be the BAE?? Just a thought, then you could do it for a normal crew or rtc etc.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:33 PM

would it be possible to put one of those baton round guns in for ARVs and public order officers? 


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:51 PM

Ok so I've got some suggestions/ questions:

I believe that the dog section have nooses attached to poles, so is it possible for u to capture the dog, create a dog section station and then put the dog attached to the noose into the car and take it to dog police station?

What about on the alarm computer, there are options, for instance you could label a button BA crew and then you would two fire fighters dress into kit and then BA, one in normal clothes drive and the officer be the BAE?? Just a thought, then you could do it for a normal crew or rtc etc.

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There was an "Arrest dog" script inSanta Catarina(?) modification. I believe it's the closest you can get to "capturing" it. Now if it could be assigned as a separate command to a specific animal control unit personnel...



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:34 PM

How about Community Wardens they deal with parking, dog's and noise complaints

 

Street Wardens don't generally deal with dangerous dogs, more dog fouling and less confrontational crimes, police ARVs probably do respond to rabid dog calls (if you're referring to the conversation about the dog attack above). I don't really appreciate them, PCSOs are much better in my opinion and should be used more often. 


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:47 PM

Any thoughts on the firefighters though?

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:59 PM

EDIT: The dog section do carry poles with nooses which go around the jaw, but dog units aren't really deployed to dangerous dogs as much as they were, I mentioned a really complicated technique which I removed as most of the time the dogs are tased or shot by ARV officers (I'm proud to say a few weeks ago I managed to deal with a dangerous dog without using these methods, I really shouldn't have but decided against it)

 

Handsup, you are right, but the problem is with sending PCSOs in is that they have nothing they can use apart from hands (I believe they are occasionally given CS spray but that would be inconvenient for a dog due to the range you must be in to use it). I mentioned this above though ^^ 

 

 

I've started working as a Special Constable in Cumbria, I'm actually working alongside the dogs unit on drug searches now and was conveniently taught on what to do with aggressive dogs, and as there is no answer really yet, I'll answer.

Is the rabies dog attack really realistic, I mean one, would they call an arv or just an animal agency, and two I think it's very rare, will you be taking it out of the calls lost on the new map??

 

If we are raiding a house with an aggressive dog, all officers entering would wear the correct protective equipment against bites and one officer would carry a special "electric shield" which works with metal plates which conduct high voltage electricity when activated.

 

But for the sake of simplicity, I reckon using the arrest dog script would be a bit easier  :laugh:



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 10:00 PM

I've started working as a Special Constable in Cumbria, I'm actually working alongside the dogs unit on drug searches now and was conveniently taught on what to do with aggressive dogs, and as there is no answer really yet, I'll answer.
A rabies dog is very rare and there has been one isolated incident so far this year (I could be wrong), but calls for aggressive dogs are more common than you think, a lot of the time in Cumbria we get calls for dogs that have killed cattle etc. If we are going after the dog on the street, there is normally a taser officer (It may seem brutal, but wait) sent on scene. Once we arrive, the first thing we would do is ensure there's no immediate risk to the public and then start to make a perimeter, we then see if it's domesticated (Shouting commands at it such as sit and lie down etc). If that doesn't work and/or the dog is charging people, the taser officer would tase it. Some people think dogs die from this, the taser will work on ANY dog, whereas there are ways for humans to make tasers useless against them by wearing leather, and the effects can be more dramatic, but there haven't been any incidents (in Cumbria at least) where one has died.

If we are raiding a house with an aggressive dog, all officers entering would wear the correct protective equipment against bites and one officer would carry a special "electric shield" which works with metal plates which conduct high voltage electricity when activated.

But for the sake of simplicity, I reckon using the arrest dog script would be a bit easier :laugh:


I've seen like officers go in with Fire extinguishers to subdue dogs? Is this actually true or for some different reasons?


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 10:59 PM

I've seen like officers go in with Fire extinguishers to subdue dogs? Is this actually true or for some different reasons?
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Posted 25 August 2015 - 11:06 PM

Ok so I've got some suggestions/ questions:

I believe that the dog section have nooses attached to poles, so is it possible for u to capture the dog, create a dog section station and then put the dog attached to the noose into the car and take it to dog police station?

What about on the alarm computer, there are options, for instance you could label a button BA crew and then you would two fire fighters dress into kit and then BA, one in normal clothes drive and the officer be the BAE?? Just a thought, then you could do it for a normal crew or rtc etc.

It's a good idea, I'll keep it in mind.

 

would it be possible to put one of those baton round guns in for ARVs and public order officers? 

Possibly if I can make one.


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