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[Pottyscotty]

My local force have the option for shotguns so they are used here

Hm, interesting! Wouldn't happen to know what type would you?

[Kieran Townsley]

Hm, interesting! Wouldn't happen to know what type would you?

hm not sure was like last year on my work experience i seen them in the armory 

[gunswat]

https://en.m.wikiped..._United_Kingdom

[theocd]

Shotguns are generally not used by ARV officers, mainly for SFO's for door-breaching and tyre-bursting. As well as the Remington 870 some forces use Benelli M3s.
The TASER Shotgun (X-REP) is not used at all Scotty, it's not Home Office approved. It was deployed against Raoul Moat, which caused some controversy.

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The OC-D

[Pottyscotty]

Shotguns are generally not used by ARV officers, mainly for SFO's for door-breaching and tyre-bursting. As well as the Remington 870 some forces use Benelli M3s.
The TASER Shotgun (X-REP) is not used at all Scotty, it's not Home Office approved. It was deployed against Raoul Moat, which caused some controversy.

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The OC-D

Thank you.

 

Ah that's the only time I have seen it, not sure what people find so bad about it. How come it was deployed then if it wasn't approved, or was this before it was banned?

[Will Sturgess1999]

Thank you.

Ah that's the only time I have seen it, not sure what people find so bad about it. How come it was deployed then if it wasn't approved, or was this before it was banned?

Primarily shotguns are made to injure and not kill. Shotguns are mainly used for Olympic shooting or farmers use them to get rid of birds. They are intentionally used to disperse hence why TSG use them with little plastic pellets or rubber bullets. Once shot with a shotgun if it is at long range or point blank depending on where the shooter shoots you you will get severely injured but not killed in the first instant


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[gunswat]

The good old beanbag shotgun;)

[Handsup!]

How does the TASER shotgun differ from a regular X26? Surely a shotgun would be awful, since it spreads too far at long range?

[Will Sturgess1999]

How does the TASER shotgun differ from a regular X26? Surely a shotgun would be awful, since it spreads too far at long range?

Taser Shotgun fired multiple small like cylinders that incapacitate for 20 seconds. The probes aren't attached to the actual shot gun so you can put taser rounds in




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[TACRfan]

Taser Shotgun fired multiple small like cylinders that incapacitate for 20 seconds. The probes aren't attached to the actual shot gun so you can put taser rounds in




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that looks nasty

[Will Sturgess1999]

that looks nasty

No kidding.... For the taser shotgun to work you actually have to put a normal taser on the bottom....


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[Handsup!]

Why is that?

 

Maybe that's a law enforcement shotgun, allowing tasing + shotgun power ALL IN ONE!?!!?!?!

[theocd]

Thank you.

 

Ah that's the only time I have seen it, not sure what people find so bad about it. How come it was deployed then if it wasn't approved, or was this before it was banned?

 

They were under test by the Home Office but TASER had illegally sold them directly to West Yorkshire Police, who decided to use them in this situation where the range (X-REP = eXtended Range Electronic Projectile) was beneficial over the 21 ft of the regular TASER. More details are here: 
https://en.wikipedia...on_and_inquest 

 

Primarily shotguns are made to injure and not kill. Shotguns are mainly used for Olympic shooting or farmers use them to get rid of birds. They are intentionally used to disperse hence why TSG use them with little plastic pellets or rubber bullets. Once shot with a shotgun if it is at long range or point blank depending on where the shooter shoots you you will get severely injured but not killed in the first instant


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Not sure where you're getting this info from but relatively sure shotguns are primarily designed to kill. It's all dependent on the ammunition used and the ranges used at. Either way, if someone pointed a shotgun at me, regardless of what it was loaded with, I wouldn't think "Oh good, they're just designed to injure". If you were point-blanked with birdshot in the chest - good luck surviving it, even if that is what is used by Olympic shooters and farmers. 

Also, which TSG are you referencing? If it's the MetPol, I don't think there's any info on them having access to shotguns at all. They do have Level 1 AFO's with Glocks and carbines though.

 

No kidding.... For the taser shotgun to work you actually have to put a normal taser on the bottom....


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That's just a clip to attach a regular TASER to make it look good, no internal modifications are needed to fire X-REP, it's just a 12 gauge shotgun:
https://en.wikipedia...c_shock_weapon 

The OC-D 

[Will Sturgess1999]

Why is that?

Maybe that's a law enforcement shotgun, allowing tasing + shotgun power ALL IN ONE!?!!?!?!

I don't know why.... But you can fire the taser bullet out of any 12 gauge shotgun, the one in the photo was a shotgun that was made by the same people who make normal tasers. It's a nasty thing but the shotgun is less lethal than a normal taser


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[Will Sturgess1999]

They were under test by the Home Office but TASER had illegally sold them directly to West Yorkshire Police, who decided to use them in this situation where the range (X-REP = eXtended Range Electronic Projectile) was beneficial over the 21 ft of the regular TASER. More details are here:
https://en.wikipedia...on_and_inquest


Not sure where you're getting this info from but relatively sure shotguns are primarily designed to kill. It's all dependent on the ammunition used and the ranges used at. Either way, if someone pointed a shotgun at me, regardless of what it was loaded with, I wouldn't think "Oh good, they're just designed to injure". If you were point-blanked with birdshot in the chest - good luck surviving it, even if that is what is used by Olympic shooters and farmers.
Also, which TSG are you referencing? If it's the MetPol, I don't think there's any info on them having access to shotguns at all. They do have Level 1 AFO's with Glocks and carbines though.

That's just a clip to attach a regular TASER to make it look good, no internal modifications are needed to fire X-REP, it's just a 12 gauge shotgun:
https://en.wikipedia...c_shock_weapon

The OC-D

I have no idea what the Met use at a all, all I know is that all the people armed in the Met are Trojan, SEG and Robbery Squad. Different shotguns can have different designs. Many people have actually survived being shot with a shot gun and especially point blank, like PC David Rathbone. Shot guns as soon as they leave the end of the barrel disintegrate into smaller bits and break away making them less lethal then say a glock or carbine rifle. Some shotguns can still be very lethal but some are not so lethal. In regards to TSG, in my county TSG, dog section and Firearms are all one integrated department so you do have the Sergeants trained in firearms so we use the rubber bullet guns and bean bag shot gun


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[XTXTactics]

On the topic of tasers... Will the dog section officer have a taser some forces dog handlers have tasers unsure about Kent though

[TWMCPE]

Learning a lot here
Sorry I don't know much to input lol

[USAR]

Will it be possible to make a alpaca farm on the new map ((I love alpacas))

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That has to be the best suggestion ever^

[Will Sturgess1999]

Will it be possible to make a alpaca farm on the new map ((I love alpacas))

That has to be the best suggestion ever^

Totally agree!!!! Then we can have like the fence has broken and Alpacas have spilled onto to the road round the alpacas up and repair the fence... You can get traffic and local units to assist!! Then engineers can repair the fence


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