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#121 andrew2007

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 05:46 AM

In California, there are hundreds probably. Did you mean in the city of Los Angeles or the whole state of California.

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LA is what i meant. I didn't think there would be as many as you say. Are these individual agencies on their own?, or sub-sections of larger organisations (If so, I'm just after the main department).
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 10:48 AM

LA is what i meant. I didn't think there would be as many as you say. Are these individual agencies on their own?, or sub-sections of larger organisations (If so, I'm just after the main department).

In a state as large as California, you really find it that hard to believe? Much less for ANY state? Indiana is mostly corn fields, and with in my county alone there is Evansville Fire and 5 different county Fire Departments alone, each of which have 2 stations at the least. Now granted were an entirely different animal then LA which utilizes LAFD and LACoFD, but I am sure you get the idea.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:40 PM

Virtually every fire department in the US handles extrications at MVAs. I have heard of regional HAZMAT squads in rural areas though.

In LA county you have the LAFD, LACoFD, Long Beach FD, Glendale FD, Pasadena FD, Burbank FD, Carson FD, and a crapload of others. All of those departments would handle extrications. They might request a heavy rescue from the LAFD or LACoFD if the wreck is bad.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:15 PM

wow that took long to read its really good well done i didnt know most of that lol :Oo
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Posted 15 April 2010 - 01:08 AM

Virtually every fire department in the US handles extrications at MVAs. I have heard of regional HAZMAT squads in rural areas though.

In LA county you have the LAFD, LACoFD, Long Beach FD, Glendale FD, Pasadena FD, Burbank FD, Carson FD, and a few others. All of those departments would handle extrications. They might request a heavy rescue from the LAFD or LACoFD if the wreck is bad.


Thanks! That's the sort of answer i was after, I probably didn't ask it correctly.

In a state as large as California, you really find it that hard to believe? Much less for ANY state? Indiana is mostly corn fields, and with in my county alone there is Evansville Fire and 5 different county Fire Departments alone, each of which have 2 stations at the least. Now granted were an entirely different animal then LA which utilizes LAFD and LACoFD, but I am sure you get the idea.

As per above, I think i probably confused myself and you all too. I was meaning to ask who as such handles rescue - fire department, police, or a totally seperate organisation, etc - just a generalisation.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 04:01 AM

As per above, I think i probably confused myself and you all too. I was meaning to ask who as such handles rescue - fire department, police, or a totally seperate organisation, etc - just a generalisation.

Well thats possible, but considering Dizza said there were hundreds in Cali, not LA, and you responded saying youre surprised its that much, seems pretty clear to me.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 09:57 AM

Do the coroners still use yellow lights? I thought I recalled you saying they switched to red but I do not recall that for a fact. So if they still use yellow, how come the Special Operations Truck uses Red? What kind of operations is this used for?

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:06 PM

Do the coroners still use yellow lights? I thought I recalled you saying they switched to red but I do not recall that for a fact. So if they still use yellow, how come the Special Operations Truck uses Red? What kind of operations is this used for?


according to the pics on this page they seem to use yellow as well as red lights

http://www.code2high.com/coroner.htm

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 05:32 AM

according to the pics on this page they seem to use yellow as well as red lights



sorry, but all coroner vehicles are apposed to have all yellow lights so they can't go code 3. The two trucks that have red lights in the pictures are the Special Operations team in which is used if they need to get to an incident were there is a lot of bodies and can't wait for the normal vans to get there i.e. train wrecks, earthquake, terrorist attack, etc. Also the detectives want all the time they can get at the scene of a crime before the coroner van comes to pick up the body. this is the main reason why all coroner vehicles have yellow lights.
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 09:41 PM

I was playing with Google Earth to try and find a photo of an SID unit, and I came up with this. It was photographed at the 740 East Cesar E Chavez avenue.
Looks like a command post or some other transport unit... Anybody know what it is?
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Posted 19 May 2010 - 01:34 AM

I have 2 questions

1 is the LASD using the same light bar as the LAPD?
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2 is the LASD using anything for patrol besides the Chargers and Vics?
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Posted 19 May 2010 - 07:25 PM

sorry, but all coroner vehicles are apposed to have all yellow lights so they can't go code 3. The two trucks that have red lights in the pictures are the Special Operations team in which is used if they need to get to an incident were there is a lot of bodies and can't wait for the normal vans to get there i.e. train wrecks, earthquake, terrorist attack, etc. Also the detectives want all the time they can get at the scene of a crime before the coroner van comes to pick up the body. this is the main reason why all coroner vehicles have yellow lights.

So do investigators use red lights to get there quickly?

I was playing with Google Earth to try and find a photo of an SID unit, and I came up with this. It was photographed at the 740 East Cesar E Chavez avenue.
Looks like a command post or some other transport unit... Anybody know what it is?
[attachment=5436:lapd.jpg]

Judging by the red and blue lights it looks police oriented.


1 is the LASD using the same light bar as the LAPD?

1. fom what i see LASD Traffic units use MX7000, while there "Radio cars" use Arjent like LAPD.


What is a radio car anyways?

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 07:27 AM

What is a radio car anyways?


as far as I know is this only an old name for " radio mounted vehicles " ..... in some areas also called " radio motor patrol " .......

I guess its more or less just a name used since the days when first police cars were fitted with a radio for dispatch purpose , rather than send from the station by incident ....the name is more or less a leftover from the good old days ;-)

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 07:32 PM

as far as I know is this only an old name for " radio mounted vehicles " ..... in some areas also called " radio motor patrol " .......

I guess its more or less just a name used since the days when first police cars were fitted with a radio for dispatch purpose , rather than send from the station by incident ....the name is more or less a leftover from the good old days ;-)

Thanks for the input but I doubt Mikesphotos would go to the trouble of labeling LASD units as radio cars with out reason, and seeing as only radio cars have arjent lightbars vs metro cars which have the mx7000, I there is something setting the 2 cars apart.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:31 AM

Thanks for the input but I doubt Mikesphotos would go to the trouble of labeling LASD units as radio cars with out reason, and seeing as only radio cars have arjent lightbars vs metro cars which have the mx7000, I there is something setting the 2 cars apart.


my following answer is only an assumption ..... because I do live on the east-coast , I was never able to see the vehicles you are referring to in real but I guess it's like that , that the Radio Cars are in a Dispatch Pool to cover all sorts of incident calls covering the whole LASD / LASO county area , while the other vehicles are usually confined to their designated area ....

the right answer will be most likely only given by Mike !

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 10:16 AM

Ok maybe I was wrong on the Arjent lightbar part:
http://www.mikesphot...ro-005.jpg.html
LASD Metro with Arjent

Heres a LASD Radio Car:
http://www.mikesphot...LASD Radio Car/

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 03:35 PM

"Metro" units are the ones that are assigned to the cities "Metro" rail and bus transportation services. They patrol the bus stations and rail stations, as well as have officers that ride on the bus and railcars.

The county was tasked with providing the services rather than the individual cities due to the logistics involved.

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 03:56 PM

"Metro" units are the ones that are assigned to the cities "Metro" rail and bus transportation services. They patrol the bus stations and rail stations, as well as have officers that ride on the bus and railcars.

The county was tasked with providing the services rather than the individual cities due to the logistics involved.

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I almost figured that this was kind off like the NYPD Transit Police over here but was not certain enough ..... a search referred often to " metrolink " and therefore I was unsure

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 09:41 PM

What does LACoFD's Infrared unit do?

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 10:31 AM

What does LACoFD's Infrared unit do?


there are multiple uses for

- searching for hot spots within a large scale fire rather then sending in units to search for them
- coordinating fire units more precise to hot spots to battle the fire more efficient
- search for missing civilians and/or firefighters during a fire rather than a dangerous and time consuming room to room or area search
- searching from air for hot spots during a forest fire and in combination with gps mapping a advanced planning and approach guidance can be given to ground units

to say it short - a safer and faster way to battle fires because units can be send directly to the actual hot spots and a quick and live saving way for search and rescue during such an event