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[topfuzz]

lol...

I peronally use the sherrif for court, transport and riots, as well as in the misions that aer like rural area

what court is there?

[zootoo63]

Hi Madman,

Your LAPD Patrol car, CHP Patrol car and LAPD slicktop should be O.K.

LAPD Patrol car 2, LAPD Patrol car 3, LAPD Patrol car 4, LAPD Patrol car 5, BLS Ambulance, ALS Ambulance, ALS Ambulance 2 and ALS Ambulance 3 - these will have the original lights, but I expect that you should be able to edit the prototypes to use Tony's lights without too much trouble.

The changes I have made should not affect the freeplay changes that you have made at all - all these vehicles will also patrol as normal, go to firestation/policestation and can all be called using the appropriate request for backup. I am also running Woods map and they all work perfectly.

Hope this helps.

Take care

Shane

does each car number show up in the "buying"place. or do they come out randomly?

[ShaneGreen]

does each car number show up in the "buying"place. or do they come out randomly?

Hi zootoo63

Each numbered patrol car will show up in the list of available police vehicles to buy. LAPD Patrol car, LAPD Patrol car 2, LAPD Patrol car 3, etc.

Take care

Shane

*** NEWS ***

Have just added Revised version of the changes which now includes further changes to police vehicle numbering, changing the LASD Patrol car number to 301, LAPP Patrol car number to 401, and LAAP Patrol car number to 501. This version also contains the LAX and Vintage Ambulances. The revised version can be found on the opening post of this topic with the other versions.

Take care

Shane

Posts merged by Pyrothijs since it was a double post and both items stand out enough to tell the two different posts apart.

Edited by pyrothijs, 13 December 2008 - 01:51 PM.

[FFEMTNecker]

I wonder what it actually adds, it's just too useless.

Nevertheless, you got permission to release those changes.
Will add this topic to the 'Approved submods' later.

Hoppah

Interesting comment from the one that is always so concerned with realism? I think it was a great idea & improves majorly on realism! Next should be the LAPD Chargers! And if you get bored should make a BC2 SUV so one could have 2nd BC for Fire Station 2. Because as far as ICS & NIMS regs would be concerned that one BC has way too much man power to control! If we are looking at it from a realistic aspect. (Under the NIMS, an appropriate span of control is between 1:3 and 1:7) NIMS= National Incident Management System

[zootoo63]

i was wondering if each car would show up in the editor and if you can edit each ones lights differently?

[ShaneGreen]

i was wondering if each car would show up in the editor and if you can edit each ones lights differently?

Hi zootoo63,

Each will show up seperately on the editor. So yes you can edit the lights differently if you wish.

Take care

Shane

[FFEMTNecker]

I want the LA Mod v1.3 slicktop and the v1.1 light equip utility back so bad, like its driving me crazy bad how would i do that for myself what files would i have to move? Please help this is killing me

[Eazyili]

I want the LA Mod v1.3 slicktop and the v1.1 light equip utility back so bad, like its driving me crazy bad how would i do that for myself what files would i have to move? Please help this is killing me

What is the difference since then till now then in those vehicles?

[Newfoundking]

the 1.3 slicktop had the 4 lights in the front window, instead of just 1, and the1.1 LEU I am thinking was something along the lines of the EMS Truck?

Could be wrong though

[ShaneGreen]

New Extended version for those who are interested.

01. added Battalion Chief car 2
02. added LAPD Patrol car 102
03. added LAPD Patrol car 103
04. added LAPD Patrol car 104
05. added LAPD Patrol car 105
06. changed LAPD Slicktop number to 106
07. changed LAAP Patrol car to 131
08. added LAAP Patrol car 132
09. changed LAPP Patrol car number to 141
10. added LAPP Patrol car 142
11. changed CHP Patrol car number to 200
12. changed LASD Patrol car number to 222
13. added LAFD ALS Ambulance 102
14. added LAFD ALS Ambulance 103
15. re-included LAFD Vintage ALS Ambulance number 104
16. re-included LAX Ambulance number 51

Reduced 91% 1024 x 640 (146.9K)

Best Wishes to all for a Very Merry Christmas and a "SAFE" and prosperous New Year.

Take care

Shane

[FFEMTNecker]

New Extended version for those who are interested.

01. added Battalion Chief car 2
02. added LAPD Patrol car 102
03. added LAPD Patrol car 103
04. added LAPD Patrol car 104
05. added LAPD Patrol car 105
06. changed LAPD Slicktop number to 106
07. changed LAAP Patrol car to 131
08. added LAAP Patrol car 132
09. changed LAPP Patrol car number to 141
10. added LAPP Patrol car 142
11. changed CHP Patrol car number to 200
12. changed LASD Patrol car number to 222
13. added LAFD ALS Ambulance 102
14. added LAFD ALS Ambulance 103
15. re-included LAFD Vintage ALS Ambulance number 104
16. re-included LAX Ambulance number 51

Reduced 91% 1024 x 640 (146.9K)

Best Wishes to all for a Very Merry Christmas and a "SAFE" and prosperous New Year.

Take care

Shane

awesome LOve it Thank you very much! but seriously anyone know what files i would have to move to change from the 1.7 slicktop to the 1.3? PLEASE Help

[Policefreak55]

WOO! Awesome, I love this mod, no no settle down mod, we're just friends.

I also wish you a Very Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!

Ho Ho Ho!

[Spaloo]

Interesting comment from the one that is always so concerned with realism? I think it was a great idea & improves majorly on realism! Next should be the LAPD Chargers! And if you get bored should make a BC2 SUV so one could have 2nd BC for Fire Station 2. Because as far as ICS & NIMS regs would be concerned that one BC has way too much man power to control! If we are looking at it from a realistic aspect. (Under the NIMS, an appropriate span of control is between 1:3 and 1:7) NIMS= National Incident Management System

Really? We're pulling NIMS into the game? If you REALLY want to be accurate, each light force and engine would have a captain, so that resolves the NIMS ratio of command to subordinate problem. The way you mention NIMS makes it sound like the BC is the only supervisor-role in LAFD, and all supervisory and management tasks HAVE TO be assigned to a BC. Realistically speaking, not every fire station has a bat chief. One is plenty. The captains play an integral role in daily function and MCI functions. The other thing, the bat chief SUV does not double as a paramedic rescue.

[ShaneGreen]

The other thing, the bat chief SUV does not double as a paramedic rescue.

Sorry! My fault that one. I used the model from my personal version which had been modified.

Take care

Shane

[FFEMTNecker]

Really? We're pulling NIMS into the game? If you REALLY want to be accurate, each light force and engine would have a captain, so that resolves the NIMS ratio of command to subordinate problem. The way you mention NIMS makes it sound like the BC is the only supervisor-role in LAFD, and all supervisory and management tasks HAVE TO be assigned to a BC. Realistically speaking, not every fire station has a bat chief. One is plenty. The captains play an integral role in daily function and MCI functions. The other thing, the bat chief SUV does not double as a paramedic rescue.

WOW! someone who knows what there talking about... LoL come one man we could go on all day with unified command and things like that... you took my point and killed it! Simply speaking you missed the point i was trying to make but thanks for your input on a solved subject! short of someone scripting a captain for each engine we need to assume that the BC and the ems captain are the only fire/ems officers in this scenario. The point of bringing NIMS into it was to make a slight reason so to speak for a BC2. Assuming you are not an LA city nor county firefighter i can't see any direct operational knowledge to base your statement on. But assuming that somewhere in LA there is a station with 4 engines running 4 man crews, a Truck company, 3 ALS Units, and a HVY rescue like in this game. That would equate to ruffly 24 fire and EMS personnel on duty that would absolutely meet the criteria for two BC's and an EMS captain alone. Then add a 2nd station in the local response area with a haz/mat, engine, and BLS unit an additional 10 fire and ems personnel on duty, 34 men and women to 1 BC!(don't think so) Then factor in call volume, coverage area, and the Nuclear power plant... Most metro cities have stations with 2 to 3 pieces of fire apparatus not 9! Not to mention allot of them are farming out there EMS to private company's ie: Rural Metro & AMR that have there own command structure... at any rate my bringing NIMS into it was nothing more than to make a point that a 2nd BC would not be so far fetched as to call it pointless! BUT FYI I am well aware of the full operational aspects of both the ICS system and NIMS as a graduate of FEMA ISP's Professional Development Series as well as ICS 300 and NIMS 900. I am also a 911 communicator and work with NJTF1.

[MikesPhotos]

Interesting comment from the one that is always so concerned with realism? I think it was a great idea & improves majorly on realism! Next should be the LAPD Chargers! And if you get bored should make a BC2 SUV so one could have 2nd BC for Fire Station 2. Because as far as ICS & NIMS regs would be concerned that one BC has way too much man power to control! If we are looking at it from a realistic aspect. (Under the NIMS, an appropriate span of control is between 1:3 and 1:7) NIMS= National Incident Management System

Really? We're pulling NIMS into the game? If you REALLY want to be accurate, each light force and engine would have a captain, so that resolves the NIMS ratio of command to subordinate problem. The way you mention NIMS makes it sound like the BC is the only supervisor-role in LAFD, and all supervisory and management tasks HAVE TO be assigned to a BC. Realistically speaking, not every fire station has a bat chief. One is plenty. The captains play an integral role in daily function and MCI functions. The other thing, the bat chief SUV does not double as a paramedic rescue.

Spaloo, as usual is pretty on the nose on this one, with one minor comment. The Truck will have a Captain II (Task Force Captain) on board and the Engine will have a Captain I. A Battalion Command Team is made up of the Battalion Chief and his Staff Assistant and most structure fires and incidents never make it to Major Emergency or Greater alarm status and are handled solely by the single Battalion Chief. A typical LAFD Battalion will usually cover an area of 5 to 10 stations large, and span more then one community.

Here are some typical fire responses:

3 Companies of Los Angeles Firefighters, 1 LAFD Rescue Ambulance, 3 Arson Units, 1 Urban Search and Rescue Unit, 1 EMS Battalion Captain, and 1 Battalion Chief Officer Command Team, under the direction of Battalion Chief Chris Kawai responded to a fire

5 Companies of Los Angeles Firefighters, 2 LAFD Rescue Ambulances, 3 Arson Units, 1 EMS Battalion Captain, and 1 Battalion Chief Officer Command Team, under the direction of Battalion Chief Michael Greenup responded to a Structure Fire With a Civilian Fatality

On Wednesday, May 21, 2008 at 9:21 PM, 7 Companies of Los Angeles Firefighters, 3 LAFD Rescue Ambulances, 1 Arson Unit, 2 EMS Battalion Captains, 1 Battalion Chief Officer Command Team, 1 Division Chief Officer Command Team, under the direction of Battalion Chief Antoine McKnight responded to a Structure Fire With A Civilian Fatality

On that one, the DC also responded due to some investigation and administrative issues that occurred.

It has to be pretty large for additional BC's to respond, or a DC to arrive. Why? Because between the BC, the SA, and the EMS Captain, you have 3 command personnel along with Captain II's and I's taking over divisions and branches.

Here is an example of a Major Emergency fire:

On Thursday, December 4, 2008 at 4:33 AM, 29 Companies of Los Angeles Firefighters, 9 LAFD Rescue Ambulances, 3 Arson Units, 2 Urban Search and Rescue Units, 3 EMS Battalion Captains, 3 Battalion Chief Officer Command Teams, and 1 Division Chief Officer Command Team, under the direction of Assistant Chief Daryl Arbuthnott responded to a Major Emergency Structure Fire

So, as for realism....yeah... 2 stations isn't that much for a single BC at all. Afterall, that's only 3 (2 Engines, 1 Light Force) companies of firefighters. Even with Station 1 overstocked, you only have 5 companies which is well within a BC's "Span of Control."

Mike

[Policefreak55]

Well, I'll still have the second battalion chief for major incidents, so I'm still happy.

[MdRescue3]

I am a little confused on where this file is suposed to go when you download it. Can someone help me out.

[FFEMTNecker]

I am a little confused on where this file is suposed to go when you download it. Can someone help me out.

As long as you have the LA Mod v1.7 properly installed its very simple go to the extension C:\Program Files\WizardWorks\911 - First Responders\Mods
extract the RAR files and copy the LA Mod 1.7 folder and paste it in the above folder and you should get prompted to overwrite and or replace files yes to all and thats it!
if your not using 911 - First Responders it should be something like C:\Program Files\Strategy First\Emergency 4\Mods

[billyfromhill]

I have one small suggestion to make. Instead of numbering the the vehicles sequentially (i.e. 101, 102, 103 etc.), how about numbering them after real units in LA? Mikesphotos has a good website where you can find info on just about every emergency unit in the LA area.