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[Fred03]

So true, in all likleyhood both the town FD and whatever agency operated the campground/park would both have brush trucks.

[JrFF34]

Something small can handle the campground. There absolutely no need for a huge international brush truck, a small pickup truck based brush truck could cover it easily.

[Fred03]

Well that depends, is it just a small campground or is it part of a larger park? If it is part of something like a larger National Park or National Forest their would likely be a type 6 in the area at least. If its just a little privately owned campground they would rely on the city's fire department. Trust me on this I used to live in a tourist river town.

[mariuswww]

Not like you need it, but if you would like help with ideas or pictures just shoot me a PM. Good luck! And I must ask, with the units are we going for "cool" or "realistic"? That is if you can restrain yourselves from tricking out the lights

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In reality I have to yet to meet a volunteer fire department that had the most modern apparatus and equipment.

As stated above its fictional, but we're aiming somewhere in the middle of cool and realistic (if that makes sense). On the tanker subject i'd like to have something close to the 2nd one (not sure about Rafael yet though).

[TacticalRooster22]

I like the 2nd one, too. I've seen a lot of departments with those and they're nice.

[jrff64]

I have some suggestions

Make the fire department volunteer: It is very uncommon to see a payed compnay in a small rural town like the one in the mod
Give the trucks red/wite lights instead of red/blue: there are only a few states in the U.S. that use blue lights for the fire service
Make some of the trucks older models: A lot of rural companies can't efford newer trucks

Again just some suggestions it is your mod and you can do what you want. Cant wait for the release

[Fred03]

Good suggestions and I have some more.
+Rescue Boat (something like a john boat) I"m not sure what you have decided but if you are making the campground and surrounding land and river federal they would have their own boat. If not the fire department and sheriff's department would have their own boats.

+A private ambulance service, most small towns have their ambulance service from a hospital in a nearby town, as such a small ambulance base (2 ambulances, 1 flight car) would be located in the town to provide medical assistance (Mercy does a lot in the Midwest, others elsewhere), the medical helicopter would also be off map. (Air Evac most likely) I know you were going to do a FD ambulance but volunteer fire departments tend to not operate ambulances because they need to be staffed 24/7.
+Pick a state for the mod and have a state highway patrol unit off map

[JrFF34]

@Fred03, with your statement about private ambulance service, In my area, we have local First Aid Squads and then contracted Paramedics. So basically, if my squad is called, we will respond and start providing BLS until the medics arrive and they will take over and do what they need to do and then we will end up transporting.

So I think it would be nice to see maybe one or two BLS ambulances for the first aid in the town and then a contracted paramedic company.


@jrff64, Not true about the red/blue lights. My fire company runs red and blue lights on almost all our trucks except the brush and tanker. We have split red/blue strobes on the front and rear and lightbar.

[rafaelmfernandez]

We will look into the volunteer script, we are just trying to find out how to incorporate this into multiplayer aspect of the mod. We are working on a brush truck and are looking into the tanker

[gunswat]

Houses look nice lmfao

[squamishfire]

I have been looking over that rescue truck for the past day and personally I am not sure if it is very realistic for a town that size to have a rescue truck that big. I could see possibly a F550 or,a Freightliner M2, or even possibly a GMC C5500.

The brush truck would normally be about a F550 as well.

I am just looking at what the town would be willing to pay in taxes and from what I am seeing right now with the Rescue and the Engine, we haven't even see the command truck or the ladder, the taxes are going to be pretty high even if is Vol or paid on call.

just some more two cents

[JrFF34]

I have been looking over that rescue truck for the past day and personally I am not sure if it is very realistic for a town that size to have a rescue truck that big. I could see possibly a F550 or,a Freightliner M2, or even possibly a GMC C5500.

The brush truck would normally be about a F550 as well.

I am just looking at what the town would be willing to pay in taxes and from what I am seeing right now with the Rescue and the Engine, we haven't even see the command truck or the ladder, the taxes are going to be pretty high even if is Vol or paid on call.

just some more two cents

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I know alot of towns that have trucks similar and they are volunteer. Everyone thinks these trucks cost a fortune but alot of towns have different ways as to buying trucks. There are different budgets that allow small towns to purchase newer trucks. Also take into effect grants that some departments may get. I know alot of small towns that have HUGE rescue trucks. Its always better to have more equipment than not enough.

[TacticalRooster22]

Yeah, a lot of volunteer departments I've seen have pretty nice engines and rescues. The rescue is fine in my opinion; it's a good size. Keep in mind that a rural department in a town that they described need equipment for extrication and water rescue. A bigger truck is probably needed.

[Fred03]

@JrFF34, yes but not always. My old department could not find the money to replace their trucks, but they made it work. (small river tourist town of 500) And I really don't think a ladder would be needed in a town of that size, really.

[jrff64]

Actually a ladder isnt a bad idea. Some of the rural companies in my area hae ladder simply because none of the companies that provide mutual aid to them dont have a ladder.

[Fred03]

Makes sense I suppose, the ones I'm familiar with don't have the money to wast operating a truck that is almost never used.

[JrFF34]

A ladder truck also has more capabilities than just climbing to a roof. They can be used for rescue operations such as say someone is stuck in a high rapid speed river, a rescuer can tie a harness off on the ladder truck and it can basically be used as a pulley/crane.

[squamishfire]

Jrff34 and 64 is this the same person but two accounts?

Back to topic. That would be a really strange way to use a aerial truck.

Personally if you are going to have a rescue that big what is the swr truck really going to be used for. And actually if you were to think about it. Wouldn't a rescue/Pumper be better off. Again just going for realism here. If your Pumper truck was to go down for repairs your pretty stuck right?

[JrFF34]

Jrff34 and 64 is this the same person but two accounts?

Back to topic. That would be a really strange way to use a aerial truck.

Personally if you are going to have a rescue that big what is the swr truck really going to be used for. And actually if you were to think about it. Wouldn't a rescue/Pumper be better off. Again just going for realism here. If your Pumper truck was to go down for repairs your pretty stuck right?

We're different people .....

Back on topic. I've read things online, I think it was from, KME or something but some apparatus manufacture was talking about rural companies and basically how they're trucks are speced out. From what I have been seeing over the past few years, alot of rural companies are starting to spec out larger trucks now to carry more equipment. This is mainly due to the fact of low numbers of volunteers etc.. So in a realistic stand point for this whole mod, I do not see a problem with the rescue truck or even having a ladder truck. They can carry more equipment to a call instead of getting on scene and not having enough people to roll out a second truck because they need additional tools.

[jrff64]

No we are two different people. Just because we are both jr. firefighters doesnt mean we are the same person.