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[MT275]

Yes I have done it multiple times.

[Ami89E1234]

How did that happen?

aha old but my OS crashed and then the big bad Geek Squad came and raped it some more. but i still have the whole, but mentally scarred, data (except the translations )

btw Hoppah, the first pic of the K9, the bodybag pic, and the firehouse pic arent working for me. jst an fyi

[firefighter111]

To close the discussion regarding LAPD divers:
*the LAPD underwater dive unit is NOT a rescue unit. Based out of metro divison, like swat, and horses, and other special details, their mission is two part. 1) Underwater evidence recovery. Say a gun tossed into a lake or pond or even a swimming pool. Or body recovery in those same areas. 2) they work in conjuction with the LA Port Police and do regular safety/anti-terrorism dives in the Port of Los Angeles. They consistently check the piers, and check for illegal dumping and such. (source: Mikesphotos)

So I can conclude the following: LAPD divers would NOT be useful in the mod because it's not possible to do underwater evidence recovery like drugs, weapons and bodies in the game. LAPD divers do not perform rescue operations. They exist, but would not add much to the game.

After some more research, I have found that the LAPD underwater dive unit does indeed act as a rescue unit, both in situations with drowing victims and clearing submerged cars. A quote from the official LAPD UDU page.

The UDU responds to the following:
Emergency callouts (immediate need to save life).
Clear a submerged car.
Look for a possible drowning victim when SCUBA is needed (Investigative / Recovery).
Underwater crime scene investigations.
Hull searches

These are the exact emergencies we use the diver for ingame, so I feel that the LAPD divers would be more appropriate in the mod than the current LAFD divers, which don't exsist (as far as I know). I know you've said that you don't want to add more units to your mod because it already has too many units, so you can choose what you want to do with this unit. I just bring this up since I thought it could help increase the realism in the mod.
LAPD UDU page

[Fuzzyface]

At the end of the day, the current in-game divers serve their purpose.
And there have been plenty 'realism/remember this is just a game' conversations.

I would rather people let Hoppah make the additions and changes he sees fit, and if anyone would like to change units or vehicles etc to aid their realism factor, they learn how to do so themselves via the tutorials.

Personally, as long as the model/unit can:

A) enter water
B) Perform action in water and finally,
C) Exit the water to return to station/HQ

he could be listed as an amphibious mammal and rather than a wet suit, just be covered in scales for all I care.

[billyfromhill]

LAFD divers are based on the fireboats.

[firefighter111]

LAFD divers are based on the fireboats.

Okay, didn't know that. So it's up to Hoppah, but now I can see him not adding it also.

[tft.cf]

Hi Hoppah will be in Los Angeles also a volunteer fire department ?

[Forensics]

Hi Hoppah will be in Los Angeles also a volunteer fire department ?

What would be the differences (in the mod) of a volunteer fire department compared with a normal one?

[tft.cf]

What would be the differences (in the mod) of a volunteer fire department compared with a normal one?

volunteer firefighters come to the station in civilian clothes only when you start the alarm and dressed at departure to incident

[Forensics]

volunteer firefighters come to the station in civilian clothes only when you start the alarm and dressed at departure to incident

Yes that's in the winterberg mod.
That would be good. It would also be good if it didn't happen immediately so dispatching a volunteer unit would be much slower.
You can have full time volunteer firemen so i think you would call them retained fire crews.

[nick the greek]

Once again LAFD does not use volunteers.

[FortErieFireEli]

Now, first off, let me start by saying that I am NOT, repeat NOT 'blowing up on, picking on, yelling at, discriminating against nor singling out' ANYONE on this forum, I'm just simlply pointing some of MY observations out.
I find it (not very) funny that people complain that the LA Mod isn't real enough. It doesn't have this, it doesen't have that. If you don't like it, don't play it. Hoppah works INCREADIBLY hard to make the mod as proffesional and functionable as he does, he doesn't need people whining because its not how THEY want it. If you want your mod to have said thing, make it yourself. If you have ANY modding experience (which I don't... really) you understand just how hard, time consuming and frustrating a mod of this scale and quality can be. If not, look at what other people are saying.
There's many things I'd like to see in the game, however, I'm perfectly content playing with the LA Units, as that's where this mod's based.
Again; I'm not trying to pick a fight, or anything like that. I'm just simply saying: pick one; realistic, or ficticious (<< spelling on that??)

Sorry if I've offended anyone

Eli

[FFW Konstanz]

I think like you, FortErieFireEli, and there aren't any Computergame, which shows the realism.
I wanted to make a mod, too, but I've seen after a short time. it's harder than you think to make a (good) mod, like Hoppah's LA Mod and all other mod.

(I hope you can understand my text, because I'm not very good in English)

[tft.cf]

Once again LAFD does not use volunteers.

LAFD does not use volunteers? never mind!
But here I thought the volunteer firemen of the city Los Angeles, it could also be in the modification.
L.A. Mod is not just LAFD, but there can be other fire brigades in L.A. City and L.A. County.

volunteer firefighters are in the all States, so why not in Los Angeles ?

[Spaloo]

LAFD does not use volunteers? never mind!
But here I thought the volunteer firemen of the city Los Angeles, it could also be in the modification.
L.A. Mod is not just LAFD, but there can be other fire brigades in L.A. City and L.A. County.

volunteer firefighters are in the all States, so why not in Los Angeles ?

Los Angeles is a city, not a state. Los Angeles COUNTY does have volunteers, but they only operate out of a very small amount of stations, in rural areas. La Habra Heights (in LA County) is a volunteer dept (with part-time paid ff/paramedics), but that is relatively far away from LA City and would not mutual-aid with LA City. You also have teen-age fire explorers that technically volunteer their time, and you might find them on fire apparatus, but they ride along as observers.

So long story short, putting volunteers in this mod would be inaccurate. The call volume in LA City is much too high to be anything but a paid-professional fire service.

[tft.cf]

Los Angeles is a city, not a state.

I know that Los Angeles is not a state, "All States" I thought the entire state of California.

build fire station to volunteer firefighters from the City of Los Angeles, and show you it.

.::few words about the fire Dept of our Republic::.
I am here from the Czech Republic and we have in every larger city, professional and volunteer firefighters, professional firefighters are state organizations have headquarters which is part of the Ministry of Interior, in each county is a regional headquarters, which is responsible for several district stations, which are even smaller station in the district. Stations volunteer firefighters are mostly owned of towns and villages.

[SirMoo]

I know we have a couple Volunteer stations as I saw two trucks come from two different directions going to the same location and let me tell you, I think you'd be better off using a garden hose to put out the fire. We have a few of these around in smaller cities, but in the main county seat and a few of the cities semi-connected to it we have normal, well equipped stations. I can't see LA being any different... Things like this need to just be left to sub-mods and not put into the main version of the game...

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I have a few questions that might have been addressed in other locations but the search function does not give very good results... way too many articles. Are the below things possible?

1: Return to Station requires vehicles to follow traffic laws, much like patrol.
2: Emergency vehicles can pass other emergency vehicles - This one bothers me... Is there anyway to fix this?!'
3: Events regarding "Freeway Service Patrol". I had re-skinned the brush truck to look like this, but would even regarding "Engine Trouble" or "Flat Tire" be possible where you send out a repair guy who fixes it on the spot much like a light being broken or the rail crossing?

[firefighter111]

I have a few questions that might have been addressed in other locations but the search function does not give very good results... way too many articles. Are the below things possible?

1: Return to Station requires vehicles to follow traffic laws, much like patrol.
2: Emergency vehicles can pass other emergency vehicles - This one bothers me... Is there anyway to fix this?!'
3: Events regarding "Freeway Service Patrol". I had re-skinned the brush truck to look like this, but would even regarding "Engine Trouble" or "Flat Tire" be possible where you send out a repair guy who fixes it on the spot much like a light being broken or the rail crossing?

1. If I remember correctly, that is hard coded into the game, so no, it's not possible, as far as I know.
2. Are you saying they can or can't pass other emergency vheicles in game? way, I don't know if changing that is possible.
3. I don't know for sure, but there are people who have created new events, so it might be possible, I have no idea.
@tft.cf: there is a very limited (if any) volunteer fire departments in L.A. County, because L.A. county has it's own fire department, so pretty much everywhere outside of the cities with paid departments is covered with the county department, and if there are any volunteer departments in L.A. County, I highly doubt they come into L.A. City?
@ Hoppah: with 2.0, is there any chance that we'll see either some events that aren't currently on the new freeplay map come onto the map, or some events that are entirely new?