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[Xplorer4x4]

What does LACoFD's Infrared unit do?

Direct quote from Mikes Flickr:
Wildland fires and disasters require up to the minute maps and information. This vehicle allows the GIS techs to create close to real time maps from the data aquired by forward observers and specially equipped helicopters.

It's bassically a giant mobile office with large printers and special computer equipment.
http://www.flickr.co...57616108553008/

[billyfromhill]

How are inland water rescues that require divers handled since the divers are based on the fireboats. Does a helicopter carry them to the scene from the port or do they respond in some sort of vehicle? Do USAR and SWR units carry diving gear?

[michaelny]

How are inland water rescues that require divers handled since the divers are based on the fireboats. Does a helicopter carry them to the scene from the port or do they respond in some sort of vehicle? Do USAR and SWR units carry diving gear?

- no , usar units don't carry any diving / scuba gear because only a few usar members are dive rated but will respond to such calls as part of the usar / swr task force in a supporting technical role
- the units you are mentioning on the fire boats are separately from the swr units .... they are the actual dive team with numerous specialized tasks
- the swr units are usually dive / scuba rated and are deployed via the swr vehicle .... having said this , you have to keep in mind , that they are only some sort of backup dive unit and that their main function is swift water rescue

[Xplorer4x4]

michaelny,just wondering what your source is for your information? Not calling you right wrong, or anything bad, just curious is all.

[michaelny]

michaelny,just wondering what your source is for your information? Not calling you right wrong, or anything bad, just curious is all.

first of all because of my job and secondly I recalled seeing an explanation regarding this from Mike http://forum.emergen...dpost__p__90631

[Xplorer4x4]

first of all because of my job

And that is?

[michaelny]

And that is?

lol ;-)

yeah I am sure you would like to know that but let me just say this much , that I am working for some law related department on the east-coast and are currently assigned and based in europe / germany

[Xplorer4x4]

Those were gradually replaced with newer Chevy Suburbans like the one in the game with an all red paint scheme, and similar lights. LED's were gradually introduced into the steady burns in the 2nd level of the bar.
http://www.flickr.co..._us/3379963429/

The latest purchases have a new paint scheme and LED bar on the roof. There are minor differences between the newest models, with some sporting a large designator on the front in white as well.
http://www.flickr.co..._us/3369032623/

So the first set are 2006 and the newer ones in the second pic are the 2007-current series suburban right?

[michaelny]

So the first set are 2006 and the newer ones in the second pic are the 2007-current series suburban right?

yeah that should be about right ... here are another shot of a current version http://www.emergency...sp?PhotoID=7177

and here some other interesting shot of a experimental command unit http://www.flickr.co...lafd/232069663/

[Xplorer4x4]

Thats about what I thought. Thanks, and the experimental rig is very interesting. Looks like it could be usefull, but the short wheel base/utility body looks a bit strange.

[michaelny]

, but the short wheel base/utility body looks a bit strange.

yeah .... that's what I thought .... looks like someone welded a trailer and a cab together ...

[billyfromhill]

Thats about what I thought. Thanks, and the experimental rig is very interesting. Looks like it could be usefull, but the short wheel base/utility body looks a bit strange.

You can read about those odd rigs in the EMS captain section. They're not in use anymore.

[theparanoid]

yeah that should be about right ... here are another shot of a current version http://www.emergency...sp?PhotoID=7177

and here some other interesting shot of a experimental command unit http://www.flickr.co...lafd/232069663/

the first link is LA county Fire truck not a LAFD

[michaelny]

the first link is LA county Fire truck not a LAFD

I know and I am sure Xplorer4x4 knows as well .... this was just to give another view of the current suburban ..... but thanks for the heads up

and here is a shot of a " non " county ...current version http://www.flickr.co...afd/4235816964/

[Xplorer4x4]

Can Mike or any one provide pics of units in house at the stations covering the LAX Area? For example: http://www.flickr.co...ear/4593539437/ Id really like shots kind of like this where you can see all the units in the station or even something along these lines: http://www.indianafi...e/station-1.jpg (obviously not LA just example).

[billyfromhill]

Can Mike or any one provide pics of units in house at the stations covering the LAX Area? For example: http://www.flickr.co...ear/4593539437/ Id really like shots kind of like this where you can see all the units in the station or even something along these lines: http://www.indianafi...e/station-1.jpg (obviously not LA just example).

http://www.fs80.org/

They have just what you're looking for in the photo section. The website is slightly out of date though. The numbering for the three E-one tenders (see below) are now foam 180 , foam 280, and foam 380 instead of foam 1, foam 2, and foam 3. Crash 80 is still the same. I think they changed the numbers to differentiate better between all four crash tenders at the station, and the reason the E-ones start with 180 is because of crash 80.

As you can see foam 180 is in the LA mod. Hoppah should tweak the skin to say "180" instead of "1"

FS 51 has an RA and an engine.

You can obviously tell it's high time for Hoppah to update RA 51 ingame with a new skin and changed model. The old RA (like the one currently in the game) is now a reserve.


FS 95 has a TF, RA, and a squad but the squad is cross staffed (it's the only squad in the city that is like that).

And then you also have 5's just to the north and they have a TF, RA, USAR (which is cross staffed), BC, EM, and maybe a BLS RA.

[Xplorer4x4]

Great job on the pics but:

FS 95 has a TF, RA, and a squad

My heads not exactly with it lately, remind me what a TF is. Is the RA the same, as far as paint and and the model goes, as the one above or is it the reserve? Got any pics?

I am trying to understand the inner workings of the three LAX stations. Station 80 is obviously going to be primary for plane crashes and stand by for mayday landings, but what are the functions of 51 and 95? Is 51 and 95 geared more towards handling incidents that are not on the air field like a car fire or mva on the property? Do the tenders have jaws or are these stored on the Engine and/or Squad?

[billyfromhill]

Great job on the pics but:

My heads not exactly with it lately, remind me what a TF is. Is the RA the same, as far as paint and and the model goes, as the one above or is it the reserve? Got any pics?

I am trying to understand the inner workings of the three LAX stations. Station 80 is obviously going to be primary for plane crashes and stand by for mayday landings, but what are the functions of 51 and 95? Is 51 and 95 geared more towards handling incidents that are not on the air field like a car fire or mva on the property? Do the tenders have jaws or are these stored on the Engine and/or Squad?

A task force (TF) is a light force plus a four man engine.

Only station 80 and 51 have the yellow appratus. 95s is all red.

A quote from www.emtbravowest.com

51's first in district includes the LAX property except a small eastern portion of the south complex. (Runway 25R/L) That belongs to 95's. We also have the 105 freeway to the 405, Imperial HWY on the El Segundo border to Vista Del Mar, Dockweiler Beach, the RV lot at the beach, Hyperion Plant, the Scattergood (Red and White Smoke Stacks) DWP plant on the LA / El Segundo / Manhattan Beach Borders and the Radison Hotel on Century BLVD.

We (ENG and RA 51) respond to all runs at the terminals, maintenance hangars, and Cargo Areas at the airport. Engine 51 is attached to ARFF 80 on all Full (Aircraft Emergency) runs at the airport. We are interior attack on the aircraft after the crash rigs knock the bulk of the fire down. We will use Stair 80 to gain entry into the aircraft if at all possible. E 51 is also part of first alarm Structure assignments to Westchester, Playavista, and the Loyola Marymount campus. RA 51 only run calls on the airport and Hotel Row on Century BLVD.

The area around LAX is also busy. 5's will average more runs a shift because they have a Task Force, USAR, EMS and BC assigned there. 95's is a bit slower, but they will handle LAX when 51's is tied up on another run.

And another quote

We will respond as far as 63's first in on structure calls. OCD Keeps us at LAX almost 90% of the time. We do not move up either but anything's possible. As far as brush goes we are typicaly not assigned out of the city. If another Bel Air type fire happened in the city all bets are off, we're going. If anything major happens, Earthquake, Civil unrest, or a large scale emergency OCD will use us as needed. The only thing different from our rig and the others is the Lime green Paint and AFFF foam instead of Class A.

We routinely respond off the airport on a regular basis but it's usually restricted to Battalion 4 so we can return to LAX promptly. The reason for this is the complexity of responding on the airport property. Only Battalion 4 personel are certified to drive on the airfield. A company from another battalion cannot reach the apparatus floor of the firehouse without an escort. If you're not familiar with the service roads and taxiways you can cause an incursion involving an aircraft.

Both quotes refer to FS 51/80 and LAX operations.

In regards to the ambulances, the current LAFD RA 51 is the one below left. The reserve RA 51 is the one on the lower right. The one in the LA mod has been outdated since the LA mod first was released as the current RA 51 is a 2005 model while the LA mod was released in 2006.

[Xplorer4x4]

That about covers it. Just one last thing. If it was covered in the guide I missed it. Do ALS Rigs carry jaws and which of the LAX Rigs carry jaws?

Your officially my go to guy for info when Mikesphotos isnt around

[billyfromhill]

That about covers it. Just one last thing. If it was covered in the guide I missed it. Do ALS Rigs carry jaws and which of the LAX Rigs carry jaws?

Your officially my go to guy for info when Mikesphotos isnt around

What do you mean by ALS rigs? Do mean RAs or assessment engines?

I believe there are a few engines in the city that carry some sort of battery powered Holmatro tool, but I don't know which engines those are though. I also believe RAs carry bolt cutters and a hayward tool and some even carry extra equipment depending on what the station has a surplus of.

I don't know which crash tenders (if any) carry jaws.