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[MCERT1]

^yeah AMR runs in an old warehouse here and the units are positioned/patrolling through out the city.

Also wondered why LAPD has there own dive team rather then relying on LAFD?

To Quote Brian humphrey:
"LAFD Firefighter/Divers are assigned full-time to three of our five fireboats.

There are a total of eight divers on-duty at all times at the Los Angeles Fire Department. There are two assigned to each of the three small fireboats (Boats 1,3,5) mentioned above, and one backup diver each at the Fire Stations that house the larger fireboats (Boats 2 and 4). "

My assumption is LAFD divers are very busy, plus LAPD divers undergo special port security training etc., Also I assume from this that UDU is probably the unit called to emergency dive situations off major waterways.

*According to an article I just read, LAFD divers are brought to scenes off via helicopter for off the coast/harbor water rescues, stills seems to me UDU could prove faster,and have more equipment.*

[Xplorer4x4]

The hummer is up in the Antelope Valley which, for those unfamiliar with SoCal, is basically all desert and canyons which is the perfect terrain for an off road vehicle like the Hummer. There are many calls there for missing and injured due to off road vehicle accidents such as dirt bikes and atvs. The hummer allows the LASD Reserve Deputies of the SAR team to be able to get there and effect a rescue and initiate medical treatment. It's not an ambulance or anything, just a better way of moving people and gear in off road areas.

Does any one know the extent of there training as to weather they provide ALS or BLS?

Just a guess but due to the rural location and geography it would be ALS, but just checking as I wanted to add such a team to the hummer. I like to post it up on the large hill in the upper right corner of the map.

EDIT: I ended up finding an answer:
http://lasdreserve.o...chAndRescue.htm
Guess I was wrong as they only have to be an EMT.

[Spaloo]

I ran a few calls with LASD SAR. They are BLS. They respond when requested (if requested). I remember LACOFD was big on just doing it themselves, but maybe things have changed. The two calls I saw LASD SAR was a) a mountain biker who fell about 6 miles up a trail in the Angeles National Forest (ANF) and had to be driven out (we had LASD Air 5 on that call, too). and B) a dog somehow made it's way halfway down an 80 foot cliff. LASD rappelled down, secured the dog. LACoFD LF 82 got their aerial up to get everyone off the cliff.

That's my experience. They are definitely BLS, last I checked. If they need ALS, that's what the LACoFD squads are there for.

[Xplorer4x4]

What equipment is held on the hummer in terms of usable items in game play like Jaws of Life, Flash Bang, Road Blocks, etc?

Is LA still primarily doing ALS Engines, or have they moved more towards Paramedic Assessment Engines?

[billyfromhill]

Does the LAPD use an electronic airhorn on any of their vehicles?

[MT275]

Hey Mike MT275 here, I read some stuff in your section several questions for ya.
In EMS in my county a ALS is considered to have a Paramedic/Emt or Paramedic/Paramedic.We don't have BLS trucks.

What does LA consider BLS and ALS?
What is different about the RA and ALS ambulance other than there make?
What is the difference in divisions in LAPD? i.e. traffic vs. patrol
How do private EMS companies recieve calls (other than a person calling them with a regular phone #) if LAFD has EMS?

Thanks,MT275

[Newfoundking]

Hey Mike MT275 here, I read some stuff in your section several questions for ya.
In EMS in my county a ALS is considered to have a Paramedic/Emt or Paramedic/Paramedic.We don't have BLS trucks.

1.What does LA consider BLS and ALS?
2.What is different about the RA and ALS ambulance other than there make?
3.What is the difference in divisions in LAPD? i.e. traffic vs. patrol
4.How do private EMS companies recieve calls (other than a person calling them with a regular phone #) if LAFD has EMS?

Thanks,MT275

1. BLS is basic life support with just EMTs on board, and the ALS system is like yours with advanced care equipment and paramedics on board.
2. I imagine they are both the same, just with different names, however they might be different, as in a RA carries rescue equipment and a normal ALS doesn't... I am not 100% sure but I do believe it's the same thing..
3. There are serveral divisions, like Gang units, and traffic, which are obviously different in many ways.. I do believe traffic and patrol are the same division, as I couldn't find anything about the patrol division when I looked....
4. Not sure about, so take this or leave it, but I would assume if all LAFD units in the area are busy then they will call out private units near by...

[billyfromhill]

1. BLS is basic life support with just EMTs on board, and the ALS system is like yours with advanced care equipment and paramedics on board.
2. I imagine they are both the same, just with different names, however they might be different, as in a RA carries rescue equipment and a normal ALS doesn't... I am not 100% sure but I do believe it's the same thing..
3. There are serveral divisions, like Gang units, and traffic, which are obviously different in many ways.. I do believe traffic and patrol are the same division, as I couldn't find anything about the patrol division when I looked....
4. Not sure about, so take this or leave it, but I would assume if all LAFD units in the area are busy then they will call out private units near by...

1. Yup
2. I think every RA (regardless of ALS or BLS) in the LAFD carries rescue equipment (axes, fire extingushers, etc. etc.).
3. I know for a fact that traffic and patrol are different.
4. LAFD doesen't use private ambulances unless there's a mass casualty incident (such as the Chatsworth train collision). LACoFD on the other hand uses private ambulance companies.

[Xplorer4x4]

What is different about the RA and ALS ambulance other than there make?
What is the difference in divisions in LAPD? i.e. traffic vs. patrol
How do private EMS companies recieve calls (other than a person calling them with a regular phone #) if LAFD has EMS?

1) Mike answered this for me awhile back. You may want to check one of the other two threads mike answers. The main thing distinguishing a RA from and ALS ambulance is RA is staffed by firefighter/emts or ff/parmedics. RAs can be ALS or BLS I believe. Search this one and find mikes answer for sure.
2) I am guessing there the same thing. Usually officers on patrol are the ones to head to an accident and then, depending on the accident type(for example normal MVA vs High Speed Chase ending in MVA) a PD Supervisor or higher ranking officer is probably dispatched as well for the later type of MVA.
3)This was covered earlier to. If I recall LAFD can radio AMR and give the call over to AMR which they do alot for frequent fliers.

4. LAFD doesen't use private ambulances unless there's a mass casualty incident (such as the Chatsworth train collision). LACoFD on the other hand uses private ambulance companies.

LAFD doesnt use AMR themselves, but they can give calls over to AMR.

[jab16]

Actually the los angelos police departments traffic divison's primary job is traffic enforcement and collison investigation's.

[heyjoojoo]

I believe LAPD uses 245 for ADW or assault with deadly weapon but is that also used for a shooting incident with one wounded? I've seen a code for shooting into a dwelling but not sure what the code is for anyone who's been shot while walking down the street.

[pyrothijs]

I believe LAPD uses 245 for ADW or assault with deadly weapon but is that also used for a shooting incident with one wounded? I've seen a code for shooting into a dwelling but not sure what the code is for anyone who's been shot while walking down the street.

Moved to the ask Mike section, he'll know.

[Xplorer4x4]

Since the ALS Engines and ALS buses are stationed together usually, how is it decided weather to role just an ALS bus vs a bus and engine?

If its a territory that doesnt have ALS Engines and buses together, then whats the deciding factor? What evers closer and/or the extent of the injury(ies)?

[billyfromhill]

Hey Mike, I was watching some videos on YouTube and I noticed there's an RA 265 in the LAFD. Is RA 265 some sort of special assignment or something because that seems to be a wierd number for an RA from what I can tell.

Also, how accurate is this directory of LAFD stations? It seems to be a little old so is there a new one somewhere?

http://lafd.org/fsdirectory.pdf

Edit: I found a newer directory from 2006. Is there a even newer one somewhere?

http://www.joinlafd....e Directory.pdf

[jab16]

Hey Mike quick Q, Is LA County Sherriff diffrent from the LA county police, and if so what is the diffrence. Thanks

http://www.flickr.co...57617353144052/

[dizza]

LA County Police is a totally separate agency. They handle the parks, public health enforcement, and provide security at the county's hospitals.

-d

[jab16]

Thanks

[Newfoundking]

Question one, I know a bunch of their new ambulances have LED's and a few trucks do as well...