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#401 novius

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Geschrieben 21 August 2009 - 06:02

I believe it. When you're the first to make a purpose built car, there's a lot of custom work that no one will have support for. I agree with the price concern. There's a few features (They may already be optional) that I wouldn't make standard. Like the LoJack, redundant arrays, Voice commands, heck, half the christmas tree. It'd be less cool than the full model, but you don't need every car to have LoJack guides. That'd cut the cost down by a few itself. Just have a couple LoJack enabled chase cars in your fleet.

LE will never fully step away from consumer models. There's too much benefit in having an otherwise standard looking vehicle in an agressive traffic area, or for tailing high risk subjects. The E7 might work out for LE, it might not. The Charger is in the same place. Lots of people like it, lots of people don't. The CV was in the same place when Chevy dropped the Caprice. I heard a lot of wistful lament when senior officers finally had to let go of the LT1 engine. Time will tell, and it'll be mixed reviews of those who want a purpose built car, those who can afford a purpose built car, and those who have sufficient need for a purpose built car.
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Geschrieben 27 August 2009 - 07:20

I wouldnt be happy if i had to drop the LT1 for the CV engine.

Mike, or Novious, in larger cities like Chicago I notice they have officers standing in intersections directing traffic to help keep intersections clear for the most part I would guess, but are these types of officers utilized in LA much?

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Geschrieben 27 August 2009 - 09:06

Mike, or Novius, in larger cities like Chicago I notice they have officers standing in intersections directing traffic to help keep intersections clear for the most part I would guess, but are these types of officers utilized in LA much?


Let me see if I can't find Mike's quote on that... I remember seeing something about it a while back.
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One thing to note is that, while it would seem counter-intuitive, neither the motor officers no traffic and standard patrol officers wear Hivisibilty vests. Due to the call volume in the city, most traffic direction and such is either immediately handled by, or quickly passed on to the city's department of transportation units. LA DOT has a fleet of Parking and Traffic enforcement officers that respond to non injury accidents and defective street signals to free up LAPD units for handling Emergency calls. These men and women do wear Lime green/yellow hivis traffic vests for safety.

There's pics associated on his post as well. I know that LAPD CAN and WILL do traffic direction, but as Mike has mentioned, there's other departments to cover it. To be fair, I've never seen(although I know they exist) any slicktops or unmarked units with a T/A in the rear window like the mod has. It's nice to have it available, but I've only seen them with blue/yellow lights on the package shelf. I usually see more 2 cars in the light force blocking the road off than LAPD cars.
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Geschrieben 30 August 2009 - 01:24

Price is the only issue. They said they're going to do something with parts availability. I actually talked to one of the co-founders of Carbon briefly. They're all former LEO's too.

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Geschrieben 30 August 2009 - 05:11

Question that I don't have an answer to.
I used to be in bomb squad (univentful so I transfered) and we didn't have a bomb robot, is it possible that the frequencies from the controler could set off a radio controled bomb???
I thought what I'd do was pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.

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Geschrieben 30 August 2009 - 07:52

I've never seen a bomb robot not actually be wired to the controller, so I couldn't tell you if they even have radio controlled robots. I thought they wired them to keep that from happening, same as cutting radio traffic in the area.
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Geschrieben 30 August 2009 - 07:59

To the best of my knowlage bomb robots controlers that are wirless (occasionaly) are tuned to a specific frequency in which is only for that one robot, like each radio station has there own channel each bomb robot has there own but this one is WAY more specific, and is a 1 in a 1,000,000 frequency. I could be wrong though. :)
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Geschrieben 31 August 2009 - 05:12

Mike:
I've been wanting to redo my radio transmissions ingame for some time, and I can't find any research on LAFD Radio codes.
If you could give me a quick overview on codes, that'd be great. I still haven't decided how to call my codes out for standby and return to base, though I think they'll be variations of code 4 for LAPD.
EDIT: Since La Canada is burning, and Rancho PV just died down, I imagine you'll be busy for a while. No rush, and be safe. We're all very grateful for your service.
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Geschrieben 01 September 2009 - 12:20

I've been wanting to redo my radio transmissions ingame for some time, and I can't find any research on LAFD Radio codes.


Radio codes are rapidly disappearing. Plain Language communication is becoming the standard. That way, nobody needs to get out their decoder ring when operating with a different agency.

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Geschrieben 01 September 2009 - 06:34

Radio codes are rapidly disappearing. Plain Language communication is becoming the standard. That way, nobody needs to get out their decoder ring when operating with a different agency.

While this is true, there are still codes being used for safety purposes, and truncation of otherwise long transmissions in LA. Specifically, I'm looking to record over the 10-codes that are being used in the LA Mod right now, as they're not LA realistic.
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Geschrieben 01 September 2009 - 07:48

Here's the LAPD ones
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Geschrieben 16 September 2009 - 11:35

Hi mike,

I made an American La france cab for the tiller truck, I want to release it as a submod when 1.9 comes out, my question: is the trailer diffrent than the trailer hoppah made?

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Geschrieben 16 September 2009 - 04:00

Hi mike,

I made an American La france cab for the tiller truck, I want to release it as a submod when 1.9 comes out, my question: is the trailer diffrent than the trailer hoppah made?

In all actuality, the back part of a tiller aerial isn't really a trailer. An easy way to think of a tiller is that it's an articulated vehicle much like a large 4WD farm tractor or a wheeled front-end loader.

The tractor and aerial can't be separated, so an ALF (American LaFrance) tractor would have a slightly different aerial unit than say a Simon.

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Geschrieben 30 September 2009 - 04:25

Maybe some one with knowledge of LA can help me out here. Does LA dispatch there ambulances from the station or do they patrol? Do they do both?

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Geschrieben 30 September 2009 - 08:44

They do not patrol. The presence of an ambulance does not lower injury-rate in the same way a patrolling police car lowers crime-rate.
Sometimes, they can be present in festivals, concerts or something like that. Maybe even grabbing lunch from McDonalds and thus they are visiting the city.
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Geschrieben 30 September 2009 - 09:37

They do not patrol. The presence of an ambulance does not lower injury-rate in the same way a patrolling police car lowers crime-rate.
Sometimes, they can be present in festivals, concerts or something like that. Maybe even grabbing lunch from McDonalds and thus they are visiting the city.

Of course it doesnt lower injury-rate but it could lower response times.

How do you know this applies to LA though?

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Geschrieben 30 September 2009 - 09:50

patrolling has nothing to do with reducing anything, he meens, are they dispatched out of a station or are they out of something bigger ( like a large city owned warehouse) where they come in, sign out a unit and are given an area of the city to respond in, say a 20 block radius. i worked for a paid service like AMR in scranton PA and thats how we were... came in, got our bus and area assignment and the only reason we should have been back to the "station" was to catch up on run sheets, change out trucks, bring the dispatcher lunch/coffie ect. lol
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Geschrieben 02 Oktober 2009 - 01:08

^yeah AMR runs in an old warehouse here and the units are positioned/patrolling through out the city.

Also wondered why LAPD has there own dive team rather then relying on LAFD?

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Geschrieben 02 Oktober 2009 - 01:11

My guess is for special opperations and traning, such as

Checking boats for bombs
Search and recovery
Police investigations
SWAT activites
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Geschrieben 02 Oktober 2009 - 01:45

Well LAPD divers would have training in different things than the LAFD counterparts...

Why train a firefighter how to use a big gun, when you can have police learn it instead... Plus, it's easier to work with your own department then outsourcing... At least that's how I see it

As for the Ambulances. I am not 100% sure, but I think they dispatch mainly from stations, and ambulances are not usually patrolling, however they may be out and around the city, for lunch, just waiting, or whatever. I know here, they have a bay under the main hospital in the underground parking garage, that is devoted for ambulance parking only, and usually ambulances will leave from there. Now of course there are the ones out and about the city at the other hospitals, at different stations, and of course, 1 or 2 out and about.

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