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[jab16]

what dose the camp crew do? anyway that sucks

[MikesPhotos]

what dose the camp crew do? anyway that sucks

Hand crews are one of the most intrinsic parts of wildland firefighting. Their job is to march in to the fire and remove all of the brush down to base dirt level and build a line to stop the forward progression. Once that is done, they then go in and mop up the fire, dig out the hot spots and do all the grunt work utilizing hand tools and chainsaws. Type I crews are main body, and go direct attack on the fire. Type II crews, usually made of 18 yos going through the wildland firefighting program at an acadamy or college are solely for mop up and cannot work around active flames.

The forest service crews are primarily Hot Shot (T1) and acad/college crews (T2). California Dept Of Forestry crews are all non-violent felon inmate's assigned to Cal. Dept of Corrections camps which gives those men and women a 2nd chance, a great skill, teaches them discipline and allows to to really do a great thing while limiting costs to the state. LACoFD, being the designated contract agency for State Responsibility Area land in the county of Los Angeles runs their own camp program with multiple camps through out the county. Some are inmate crews, others are staffed by Fire Suppression Aids. FSA's are usually 18-25yos who have completed a wildland program/academy and its a good way to get a foot in the door of LACoFD and eventually being hired as a firefighter. LAFD has 1 type II crew made of explorers as a way to give the kids a little experience in a safe environment, but because it's run by an on-duty FF, they only respond when he isnt already assigned to the incident.

LACoFD FSA Camp Crew and Crew Bus

[Hoppah]

Hey MikesPhotos,

You have any idea what year/model my new LAFD truck might be? It's for the manual for v1.9?
I used this picture for the cabin: click. I am not even sure if the one on that picture exists, because it looks kinda fake. I liked the cabin because it matches the other fire apparatus in the LA Mod better.

[MikesPhotos]

Hey MikesPhotos,

You have any idea what year/model my new LAFD truck might be? It's for the manual for v1.9?
I used this picture for the cabin: click. I am not even sure if the one on that picture exists, because it looks kinda fake. I liked the cabin because it matches the other fire apparatus in the LA Mod better.

Truck 11 is one of the really old ones actually. It's a 1996 Simon-LTI (ladder towers Inc) QS-104 100' Aerial Ladder Truck Cummins Diesel.

They recently purchased a pretty good handful of 2006 ALF-LTI's to start knocking most of the 10+ year old trucks out. Here's the cab of Truck 90, one of the newest deliveries.





And Truck 9, the famous Skid Row truck from the only Heavy Task Force station in the city

[Hoppah]

Hmmm I might change the cabin in that case. Thanks for the info
That's a Whelen Edge lightbar right?

[Pearl71]

Hmmm I might change the cabin in that case. Thanks for the info
That's a Whelen Edge lightbar right?

hoppah if your gonna make a new ALF tractor, why not keep the older style as well (since its already done) and just have it a different unit number.

not a suguestion, just a question.... kinda lol

[Hoppah]

hoppah if your gonna make a new ALF tractor, why not keep the older style as well (since its already done) and just have it a different unit number.

not a suguestion, just a question.... kinda lol

It only requires a couple of minor changes. The shape of the cab, the grille and the lightbar. The scripts are way too extensive for two tillers with these small changes.

edit: I might as well keep the current lightbar. What do you think?

[MikesPhotos]

Hmmm I might change the cabin in that case. Thanks for the info
That's a Whelen Edge lightbar right?

Yep, Whelen LED Edge bar on the top, which has been called a huge mistake by nearly everyone. They're hoping the next order will go back to halogen since the LED's are almost invisible in California sun. I'll head out to 102's or 90's in the next couple of days and get you some video of the lights if I can. The rear is a whelen strobe with center brake light, and there are a couple of side LEDs that are set to slow or quad flash depending on who set up the lights that day.

If you go to my flickr site, you can get a pretty good walk around and it should be faster for those in europe. Just search for LAFD T9, LAFD T90 or LAFD T102.

[Hoppah]

Decided to keep the tiller truck as it is now. I still need to change at least two other vehicles (foam tender & swat heavy rescue) as well. I want to do that AFTER the map is done.

[Grim_Wizard]

Question.
Does LAFD still use the deluge pumps?
If so you could use em' for the hydro tanks and move the crash truck around.

[firefighter111]

http://www.videolan....oad-macosx.html
Plays WMV files,AVI,most anything you throw at it will play.

thanks.
Hey Mike, since when is LACoFD using black helmets?

[C.F.D]

The Helmet could be personally owned by a Firefighter, not government issued, i.e LACoFD...

[MikesPhotos]

**Topic Moved since the question has nothing to do with LA Mod**

thanks.
Hey Mike, since when is LACoFD using black helmets?

You'd have to show me the picture or video you are talking about since I can think of a couple of things it could be.

[Xplorer4x4]

Mike, we have AMR as our one and only Ambulance service here. We have a combination of the vintage style ambulances and the newer box styles. A number of both styles are labeled, Paramedic Unit while the rest are not. I havent gotten a chance to ask any of the local medics is this is to show ALS vs BLS, but we don't have any of the Critical Care Transport units. Are these reserved for hospital to hospital transport, or is this an indication as to weather its a BLS or ALS?


Also, just wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking the time to assist all of us here, and educate us for the sake of keeping the mod realistic and our own personnel curiosity. THANKS!

[MikesPhotos]

Mike, we have AMR as our one and only Ambulance service here. We have a combination of the vintage style ambulances and the newer box styles. A number of both styles are labeled, Paramedic Unit while the rest are not. I havent gotten a chance to ask any of the local medics is this is to show ALS vs BLS, but we don't have any of the Critical Care Transport units. Are these reserved for hospital to hospital transport, or is this an indication as to weather its a BLS or ALS?


Also, just wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking the time to assist all of us here, and educate us for the sake of keeping the mod realistic and our own personnel curiosity. THANKS!

You're welcome, like my sig alludes to, nothing bugs me more then misinformation, so if I can at least clear up some of the crap spouted by some, I can at least hope it'll promote people to think more, research more, and speak less about things they really don't know about. It'll be a good lesson when many of the members of this board reach high school and college.

As for your questions, I'm going to assume they have to do with the Submod being worked on. I haven't said anything in the other thread, cause much like RHIS's stuff, the authors have not mentioned one way or another if they care to be factual or realistic or if they're just doing it for the sake of doing it.

In reference to your questions though, AMR utilizes the van style for both BLS and ALS units in the Los Angeles and Ventura County areas.

Ventura Co ALS transport unit



LA County BLS Transport unit


Cedars Sinai Hospital Parking w/mix of Critical Care and BLS units


AMR Los Angeles CCT


The Critical Care Transports are for emergency or non-emergency inter-facility transport. This could be from a long term care facility to a hospital or vice versa, Hospital to another hospital with specialized equipment, or some kind of transport of that nature. They are larger then a normal box style ambulance and carry most of the gear that you would find in an ICU. They are staffed by a mix of EMT's and Paramedics, but always accompanied by either a Critical Care nurse or Respiratory Technician to perform the necessary duties outside the scope of EMT's and Paramedics. When I went through the LA EMT course, 2 of my rotations were with AMR CCT's and it's s completely different environment from a regular ambulance.

For the most part the bread and butter of AMR in Los Angeles are the IFTs (inter facility transports) due to the large number of hospitals, senior citizen facilities, and long term care homes in the Greater Los Angeles Area. For a long time,
AMR had a lock on the LACoFD BLS transport, but due to poor quality of service and lengthy response times, the contract was broken up and they were relegated to a sliver of the area they once covered for the County. They do not respond with LAFD or into LA City for emergency calls, since LAFD has its own BLS and ALS ambulances to take care of that need.

Mike

[Spaloo]

For the most part the bread and butter of AMR in Los Angeles are the IFTs (inter facility transports) due to the large number of hospitals, senior citizen facilities, and long term care homes in the Greater Los Angeles Area. For a long time,
AMR had a lock on the LACoFD BLS transport, but due to poor quality of service and lengthy response times, the contract was broken up and they were relegated to a sliver of the area they once covered for the County. They do not respond with LAFD or into LA City for emergency calls, since LAFD has its own BLS and ALS ambulances to take care of that need.

Mike

Poor quality came from the top, not the employees, that's for sure. There's nothing like responding from Montebello to Hawaiian Gardens for a pediatric status epilepticus that they couldn't control with valium. Then everyone shoots us a dirty look for being "late".

One thing I gotta say is that I remember responding into The City for prehospital calls by request of LAFD while I was with AMR. It wasn't very rare, either. It was always a non-emergency response for either a frequent flyer they did not want to transport, or a BLS patient that was requesting a hospital either out of the area or on the other side of the city. Depending on how you look at it, you could say it was a prehospital call, or a BLS transfer from residence to an outpatient facility (ER)

There are also the MCI responses (i.e. Santa Monica MCI) or an occasional Strike Team during a fire. While it's EXTREMELY rare to see a private company on anything other than a transfer in the city of LA, there are times they're utilized and I can see why it'd be a good addition to the game.

[Xplorer4x4]

Ah I thought the CCTs looked a bit longer, but i thought it was just the angle you were at or something of that nature. I suppose there not needed as much here. We have three hospitals and there all 3 located with easy aces to the expressway so transport time from one side of town to another wouldnt be more then 15 minuets.

[Spaloo]

Ah I thought the CCTs looked a bit longer, but i thought it was just the angle you were at or something of that nature. I suppose there not needed as much here. We have three hospitals and there all 3 located with easy aces to the expressway so transport time from one side of town to another wouldnt be more then 15 minuets.

Critical care transport units with nurses and larger ems units are not a nation-wide thing. LA County's EMS protocols are very detailed and somewhat strict as far as what paramedics can and cannot do. Hence, any procedure or medication that is outside the paramedic protocols are (for the most part) prohibited. RNs do not fall under these protocols. So if a patient is on a medication drip that falls outside the protocols, for example, a heparin drip and integrelin drip, and needs to be transported to a different hospital in LA, then a paramedic cannot monitor this patient and it requires a nurse.

In other areas of the country, paramedics may be trained as "critical care paramedics" and have very similar training to what an RN learns in the ICU setting. These EMS services don't require a nurse during those critical transports, and they'll use whatever ambulance they are in for the shift to accomplish the critical care transport. I assume that is what is done in your area of the country.

I hope that made sense.

[Xplorer4x4]

^thanks Spaloo. Yeah I understand now.

[kyle308]

In other areas of the country, paramedics may be trained as "critical care paramedics" and have very similar training to what an RN learns in the ICU setting. These EMS services don't require a nurse during those critical transports, and they'll use whatever ambulance they are in for the shift to accomplish the critical care transport. I assume that is what is done in your area of the country.

I hope that made sense.
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this is also similar in my area of indiana. The paramedics at my ambulance service are all trained as critical care paramedics so as to save money by not needing a ICU nurse on alot of the critical hospital transfers. Which would get very expensive since I live in a rural area and anything serious has to be flown out or takin to Indianapolis code 3 in a critical care truck.