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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:14 AM

Was that car manufactured as a civilian crown vic? Just noticing the chrome on back, doesn't the law enforcement version usually have that as black and say interceptor instead of crown victoria? Sorry for going a little OT.


Maybe it's meant to look like a civilian car? You might notice it has regular California plates instead of the "exempt" plates used by emergency vehicles.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 09:47 AM

Pierce has figured out a way to make it happen check this link out.

Articulated Tower/Ladder



As did E-One.

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Wow!

I was right, that IS some neat engineering :D

I watched both videos. The pierce one didn't show too much, so it may be just as cool, but that E-One Bronto is awesome

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 03:48 PM

Pierce has figured out a way to make it happen check this link out.

Articulated Tower/Ladder


Pierce has had a skyarm for quite a while.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 04:49 PM

E-One picked up the Bronto from Pierce several years ago. Going back to before 1993/1994 time frame, Pierce built a limited number of Bronto's. One of our Volunteer Departments up here where I am at operated one for almost a decade until a Career Firefigher laid it on its side around 2005/2006 going to fast and taking a corner to sharp. They are great pieces, but not the fastest and they dont set up as quick as more conventional Aerial Devices. They also are Top Heavy. Once they are set up however, They are great to operate off of. Before they flipped it, I worked off the one I was talking about during a High Rise fire in 2003 and It worked great. Pierces replacement for its Bronto line is of course the Sky-Arm which I havent heard of any complaints.

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Wow!

I was right, that IS some neat engineering :D

I watched both videos. The pierce one didn't show too much, so it may be just as cool, but that E-One Bronto is awesome

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 05:04 PM

the units where I live are slowly going to NFPA standards... Just like LA

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hehe, look... I found a search dog to replace the original one in the game lol

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:18 PM

Maybe it's meant to look like a civilian car? You might notice it has regular California plates instead of the "exempt" plates used by emergency vehicles.

Yeah, just was surprised they went that far. The department here just uses regular white or black police interceptors with civi plates and no markings- that or something totally different from a crown vic. From what I've seen the neighboring department and NYPD tend to do the same.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:38 PM

E-One picked up the Bronto from Pierce several years ago. Going back to before 1993/1994 time frame, Pierce built a limited number of Bronto's. One of our Volunteer Departments up here where I am at operated one for almost a decade until a Career Firefigher laid it on its side around 2005/2006 going to fast and taking a corner to sharp. They are great pieces, but not the fastest and they dont set up as quick as more conventional Aerial Devices. They also are Top Heavy. Once they are set up however, They are great to operate off of. Before they flipped it, I worked off the one I was talking about during a High Rise fire in 2003 and It worked great. Pierces replacement for its Bronto line is of course the Sky-Arm which I havent heard of any complaints.

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Bronto Skylift is actually an E-one model. E-one picked up the Bronto Skylift idea from engineering in Germany. Bronto Skylift has been made by E-one since the mid 80's and is popular seller in Canada. Now other companies such as Pierce, Sparatan, and ALF have made their own versions of an articulating boom but Bronto Skylift is a trademark of E-one.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:43 PM

Yeah, just was surprised they went that far. The department here just uses regular white or black police interceptors with civi plates and no markings- that or something totally different from a crown vic. From what I've seen the neighboring department and NYPD tend to do the same.


The reasoning behind the "low profiled markings" are self explanatory. If that crown vic had pushbumpers then you could see it and know it was a police car from a mile away. The same reason with the civilian licence plate. If it had a city plate then it would have police car written all over it.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:16 PM

The reasoning behind the "low profiled markings" are self explanatory. If that crown vic had pushbumpers then you could see it and know it was a police car from a mile away. The same reason with the civilian licence plate. If it had a city plate then it would have police car written all over it.

Yeah, I was mostly commenting on how the car had crown victoria on the back where it usually says police interceptor. Its small and rarely gets noticed by anyone but around here usually the unmarked cars have it removed entirely. The fact that it had this made me wonder if it was actually manufactured as a civilian vehicle and originally lacked the speed and features of the police version or if it was actually made with the intention of being used as an unmarked. I definately get why they did it that way, just looks a lot more convincing than any of the other unmarked crown vics I've seen. lol

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 10:56 PM

god i gotta stop posting and then ignoring the topic subscriptions changes in my inbox for a week. lol. so since my favorite The Whelen Liberty was voted off the island, i have to say the Arjent is my choice.

@ MikesPhotos: are you able to get a picture of the bar without the colored tops? I like that style consistent with the fact that LEDs do not require a colored lens to produce color. Thats one of the huge pluses, clear lens with color LEDs provide brighter lights with a lower profile.
Haha, very sad that CA doesn't light up there fleet like those videos. There's no fun in a just a few lights. :police:


Heres 2 pictures from an area department...hard to find, i would say that in MA, 75% of the departments that upgraded lightbars went to the Liberty.


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 12:10 AM

the units where I live are slowly going to NFPA standards... Just like LA

http://farm2.static....pg?v=1201494526

http://farm2.static....5a7ef0b.jpg?v=0


Hah, I see that exact Rockville Ambulance every morning when I head out to school. Montgomery College Rockville :D

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 03:43 AM

Sorry My Friend, your wrong. Pierce did distribute Bronto's for quite a number of years (Since before I became a firefighter in 1994). Several departments bought them (like the one one in the pic) and I think in ILL or NV. You are correct in that It (the Bronto/Boom piece) did come from europe, but as far as the US goes, Pierce was the first to distibute it. It never really caught on so they stopped making it. Incidently, the one in the picture I attached, after It flipped, it was bought by a company who supposidly fixed it and resold it to another department. Ive been doing this for quite a number of years so I know what im talking about.


Bronto Skylift is actually an E-one model. E-one picked up the Bronto Skylift idea from engineering in Germany. Bronto Skylift has been made by E-one since the mid 80's and is popular seller in Canada. Now other companies such as Pierce, Sparatan, and ALF have made their own versions of an articulating boom but Bronto Skylift is a trademark of E-one.


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:03 AM

How do you know glen?


You take those photos with Glenn... or did Glenn take them?

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 07:37 AM

Sorry My Friend, your wrong. Pierce did distribute Bronto's for quite a number of years (Since before I became a firefighter in 1994). Several departments bought them (like the one one in the pic) and I think in ILL or NV. You are correct in that It (the Bronto/Boom piece) did come from europe, but as far as the US goes, Pierce was the first to distibute it. It never really caught on so they stopped making it. Incidently, the one in the picture I attached, after It flipped, it was bought by a company who supposidly fixed it and resold it to another department. Ive been doing this for quite a number of years so I know what im talking about.


No Pierce may have distrubuted their own model of an articuilating boom but trust me Bronto Skylift is a registered E-one model. Bronto Skylift has been made since the late 80's by E-one. I know this because I have been an E-one sales rep for quite a number of years.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:22 AM

Don't ya think this is getting a little of topic?

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 10:22 AM

Yes, it's going a little bit offtopic. Why not create a new topic about the aerials?

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 12:17 PM

I agree it is off topic, my apology's. Hanover. check this link out:

http://books.google....-PoLI#PPA102,M1

Page#103.

And then this one: http://findarticles...._65/ai_58062914

Hoopah, this link is an excellent refrence and has some great pics of of the different types of Aerials in the US. The book itself is pretty killer as well. Looking forward to 1.5!! :1046275747_biggthumpup:

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 02:57 PM

Indeed we are going off topic. I appologize :1046276160_schildbacktotopic:

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 05:30 PM

Bad Day in L.A. for the SWAT Team. My thoughts to the Familly's. :(

http://www.foxnews.c...,329246,00.html

"WINNETKA, CALIF. — A man barricaded himself in a house after telling police he had killed three relatives, then opened fire on a SWAT team Thursday, killing one officer and wounding another, police said. Ten hours after he initially called police, the house was on fire."

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 10:28 PM

Hoopah I would Greatly appriciate if you could dedicate V1.5 to LAPD Swat officers Randy Simmons and James Veentra and there families. It is a very sad day in la today.


Heres a link to a news artical.


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