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[MARCO]

change name  from fixed hydrant to vehicle_hose_connector ?

[theparanoid]

So those saying german resuce trucks have not water tank?  What are you basing this on?

 

I ask because that those not jib with what I know.  

 

1. I have talked with a real german fire fighter, in fact I translated for a Volunter fire fighter from the US and the german fire fighter.   They ask and compared notes on many of topics.  From how departments where staffed, equipment and so on.   It also include a tour of all the fire equipment. 

2. I been to german and have seen fire trucks from germany.

3. I speak and can read german some german.

 

https://en.wikipedia...n_fire_services

Rescue engines, the Hilfeleistungs-Löschgruppenfahrzeug (HLF). Similar to the engine (LF) but with far more rescue equipment (i.e. Jaws of Life and a winch) on board.

Which links to

https://de.wikipedia...gruppenfahrzeug

Fahrzeugdaten
Abkürzung: 	HLF 10
Land: 	Deutschland
Besatzung: 	0/1/8/9
Feuerlöschpumpe: 	FPN 10-1000
Löschwasser: 	mind, 1.000 Liter
Schaummittel: 	6 x 20 Liter
Zul. Gesamtmasse: 	12.000 Kilogramm
Antrieb: 	Straße/Allrad

For those that do not read german.   Löschwasser = extinguishing water or water.   and Feuerlöschpumpe is fire extingiusing pump.....

 

So Why or why would a German rescue truck of a pump and tank if they do not carry water?     Or perhapes you like to share where you get your knowledge from.....

[cola75]

theparaniod you are talking about a Rescue Engine the Hilfeleistungs-Löschgruppenfahrzeug (HLF). Similar to the engine (LF) but with far more rescue equipment (i.e. Jaws of Life and a winch) on board. which is different to an RW..

 

A Rescue truck, the Rüstwagen (RW).Usually either a larger panel truck or a smaller truck, they are equipped with a broad range of rescue gear i.e. Jaws of Life, a winch, saws, cutters or work platforms and does not carry water. .

 

I think the Heavy Rescue in EM5 (which is the vehicle that can connect hoses to) is technically incorrect, as it resembles an RW, not a HLF.. The hoses should connect to the Water Tender in the game IMO..

[theparanoid]

theparaniod you are talking about a Rescue Engine the Hilfeleistungs-Löschgruppenfahrzeug (HLF). Similar to the engine (LF) but with far more rescue equipment (i.e. Jaws of Life and a winch) on board. which is different to an RW..

 

A Rescue truck, the Rüstwagen (RW).Usually either a larger panel truck or a smaller truck, they are equipped with a broad range of rescue gear i.e. Jaws of Life, a winch, saws, cutters or work platforms and does not carry water. .

 

I think the Heavy Rescue in EM5 (which is the vehicle that can connect hoses to) is technically incorrect, as it resembles an RW, not a HLF.. The hoses should connect to the Water Tender in the game IMO.

Ok and you get your facts that Ruestwagen have no water from where?

 

Cause.....let say your right that they want it to be ruestwagen.....

 

https://de.wikipedia.../wiki/Rüstwagen

Fahrzeugdaten
Land: 	Deutschland
Besatzung: 	0/1/2
Löschwasser: 	9 Liter
Löschpulver: 	6 Kilogramm
Hilfeleistungssatz: 	vorhanden
Zul. Gesamtmasse: 	14.000 Kilogramm
Antrieb: 	Allrad

Ohh look....9 liter tank........well gee look at that......And it a Ruestwagen..... Maybe the guy that talk to a german fire fighter knows what he talking about. 

 

Note I am not saying ever one has it... or even most.   But I am saying there are German Rustwagen that have water and pumps.   For starts equipment form DDR almost always had it because they did not have as good of hydrant system.

 

Also not every fire department in Germany is in city with hydrants...... which means all the trucks need to have some ability to fight fires.  Even more so when said department are volunteer departments.    

[cola75]

Ok and you get your facts that Ruestwagen have no water from where?

 

Cause.....let say your right that they want it to be ruestwagen.....

 

https://de.wikipedia.../wiki/Rüstwagen

Fahrzeugdaten
Land: 	Deutschland
Besatzung: 	0/1/2
Löschwasser: 	9 Liter
Löschpulver: 	6 Kilogramm
Hilfeleistungssatz: 	vorhanden
Zul. Gesamtmasse: 	14.000 Kilogramm
Antrieb: 	Allrad

Ohh look....9 liter tank........well gee look at that......And it a Ruestwagen..... Maybe the guy that talk to a german fire fighter knows what he talking about. 

 

Note I am not saying ever one has it... or even most.   But I am saying there are German Rustwagen that have water and pumps.   For starts equipment form DDR almost always had it because they did not have as good of hydrant system.

 

Also not every fire department in Germany is in city with hydrants...... which means all the trucks need to have some ability to fight fires.  Even more so when said department are volunteer departments.    

 

I think in that info, it is referring to a 9 litre water fire extinguisher, not a water tank.. 9 litres is the size of a bucket, hardly a tank.. It would be Fire Water 9lts and Dry Powder 6kg..

 

However, I'm certainly not trying to argue and not disputing you have more knowledge on this matter.. I was just saying, that it is very strange for a dedicated Rescue Truck (as it implies to me in EM5) to have a water tank and pump as opposed to an Engine (Rescue Engine) with rescue capabilities..

 

Anywho, apologies for getting off topic..