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What is your favorite fire apparatus for urban areas and why?
I like american engines like Pierce KME American LaFrance and Ferrara. Although the Most functional for me are Rosenbauer specially AT Type.
Dutch Trucks look cool, but the standard truck carry's less water than the other country's trucks usually do.
Best fire truck for urban areas?
#1
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 11:19
#2
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 12:49
London Fire Bridgade - Mercedes Atego
Great manoveability through heavy traffic even if it is donkeys years old, very compact but still fits 6(?) Firefighters. Nifty little thing Carrys up to 1,365 litres of water. It also carries a 9M ladder if it is a pump and a 13.5M ladder if it is a pump ladder unit. Stations with two DPL's (dual purpose ladder) have one Pump and one pump ladder.
This is the point where I think I need to get a life
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#3
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 01:28
The various Scania appliances must be good enough, seeing as they are used by the majority of UK Fire Services urban and rural.
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#4
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 03:43
The various Scania appliances must be good enough, seeing as they are used by the majority of UK Fire Services urban and rural.
Scania is the most used fire truck in Norway also. Both urban and rural.
#5
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 04:05
London Fire Bridgade - Mercedes Atego
Great manoveability through heavy traffic even if it is donkeys years old, very compact but still fits 6(?) Firefighters. Nifty little thing Carrys up to 1,365 litres of water. It also carries a 9M ladder if it is a pump and a 13.5M ladder if it is a pump ladder unit. Stations with two DPL's (dual purpose ladder) have one Pump and one pump ladder.
This is the point where I think I need to get a life
Love those trucks!
Small amount of water for a industrial situation or a defensive attack... 1365L for me at least 3000L to be good. Need to be independent of the hydrants.
#6
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 06:29
Love those trucks!
Small amount of water for a industrial situation or a defensive attack... 1365L for me at least 3000L to be good. Need to be independent of the hydrants.
But in most of London there very rarely isn't at least 1 hydrant available. That's why they stopped carrying lightweight portable pumps
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#7
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 07:24
The same here (Portugal). But not all the hydrants work as they should, some hydrants are old and can`t be opened or converted to a new hose line junction.
#8
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 08:11
AHHHH SO MANY SHITTY EUROPEAN RIGS! MUST. OFFSET.
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Better.
In relation to Question - A tiller because it is more maneuverable. Or really any of the trucks above.
Didn't think ti was large compared to most peoples sig.... But alrightly then
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#9
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 08:53
AHHHH SO MANY SHITTY EUROPEAN RIGS! MUST. OFFSET.
Better.
In relation to Question - A tiller because it is more maneuverable. Or really any of the trucks above.
yep I'm a pierce guy
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#10
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 10:31
AHHHH SO MANY SHITTY EUROPEAN RIGS! MUST. OFFSET.
In relation to Question - A tiller because it is more maneuverable. Or really any of the trucks above.
Shitty, huh..?
I wanna see one american fire engine competing with Rosenbauer's AT3 or operating in an European city. An AT3 can operate everywhere, while on the other hand, if you put a North-American engine in one random european city, it would get stuck everywhere, more precisely in tiny and tight streets (a tiller couldn't even make the turn to the street without crashing into something).
Watch this to expand your (little) knowledge about european emergency vehicles before insulting them.
On-topic: this one belongs to my VFD. It's kind of old but it still does the job. Carries about 1500 to 2000L.
But it's still beaten by the pumper in my signature, which carries 3000L, extrication gear, paramedic bags, etc. and it's also very compact, has all of the necessary equipment and is really maneuverable, making it perfect for Lisbon's historical centre and operational area.
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#11
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 10:49
Shitty, huh..?
I wanna see one american fire engine competing with Rosenbauer's AT3 or operating in an European city. An AT3 can operate everywhere, while on the other hand, if you put a North-American engine in one random european city, it would get stuck everywhere, more precisely in tiny and tight streets (a tiller couldn't even make the turn to the street without crashing into something).
Watch this to expand your (little) knowledge about european emergency vehicles before insulting them.
On-topic: this one belongs to my VFD. It's kind of old but it still does the job. Carries about 1500 to 2000L.
But it's still beaten by the pumper in my signature, which carries 3000L, extrication gear, paramedic bags, etc. and it's also very compact, has all of the necessary equipment and is really maneuverable, making it perfect for Lisbon's historical centre and operational area.
Hey, I know you guys cant use our rigs due to your limited space, I was just saying they aren't my favorite and honestly look bad. They are also way too small. (Like I said, i know you guys cant have our big rigs.) We also have tankers which can carry around 6000 Gallons (22712.47 L)
Didn't think ti was large compared to most peoples sig.... But alrightly then
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#12
Geschrieben 07 Oktober 2014 - 10:53
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#13
Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 01:39
I really think it's all a matter of the fire company choosing what will work best for their area. A lot of companies have a problem of going and spending a lot of money on new equipment that ends up really not being designed for their response area. They just want it so they can have the biggest, best, and fanciest toy.
The Rosenbauer looks pretty nice, but the crew compartment must be ridiculously cramped. We can seat 6 in some of my department rigs, but realistically only 4 would fit with any sort of comfort.
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Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 06:01
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#15
Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 09:39
1. We already have a topic for this
2, Completly random >.>
#16
Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 11:19
1. We already have a topic for this
2, Completly random >.>
As it says on your interest they are nothing... includes this topic for sure.
Maybe your signature is an advice for yourself... so depressing.
No one invited you to this. Still welcome!
#17
Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 12:12
As it says on your interest they are nothing... includes this topic for sure.
Maybe your signature is an advice for yourself... so depressing.
No one invited you to this. Still welcome!
Oh lol xD
Wrong page, was ment for other forum xd. My fault.
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Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 12:39
Oh lol xD
Wrong page, was ment for other forum xd. My fault.
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#19
Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 04:35
My fire Department (Seixal,Portugal) has 4 vehicles specialized on urban areas.
VLCI 02 (Light Pumper 02) - 2002 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter. It has 400 litters, extrication gear, USAR equipment and Paramedic Bags. Its designed to intervention on historical centres and tiny spaces.
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VUCI 01 (Urban Pumper 01) - 1995 Mercedes Benz LK. It has 5000L plus extrication gear. Also responds to floods and sometimes brush fires
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VUCI 02 (Urban Pumper 02) - 1998 Scania - It has 3000L and only respond to Urban and Industrial Fires.
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VUCI 03 (Urban Pumper 03) - 2009 Scania - It has 3000L, Extrication Gear and Paramedic Bags. (Is my favourtie, mainly for the epic blue and red lights )
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#20
Geschrieben 08 Oktober 2014 - 06:59
My local FD has some pretty nice units for urban firefighting
but this fast response unit is probably the ultimate urban firefighting vehicle because it is so small and agile
Also this large water tanker would be the equivalent to american firetrucks in Europe