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[CFDDIVE11]

For you fire guys: Your dispatched for a working fire you pull up on scene and as the officer you give a size up the size up is a single story vacant house with fire showing reports are there might be squatters what do you do?

[Fred03]

(I am assuming I have 2 pumpers and a hydrant)
Catch a hydrant, send 2men in to do entry and search for victims, have 2 more firefighter outside with a line ready to go in if needed, call PD for traffic control, ask EMS to stage, have 2 teams of 2 attack the fire from the outside.

[999madtom]

Im doing the british way: Have two engines go, send a BA team in with hose (search, if no one is found put out a fire). Have other fire fighters use the hose to put it out. Call the police (move on the squatters or control). Call ambulance if anyone is found hurt.

[Handsup!]

Heres one: There is a major RTA on a major junction, two confirmed unconscious and trapped, traffic is still flowing, as a police officer, what do you do when you're the first to arrive on scene?

[CFDDIVE11]

Shut down traffic and start redirecting them to a different location and call in more units to assist if you need it.

[999madtom]

Decided to 'Bump' this. Your a regular beat officer (not common anymore) and you see a child (5) in a car sweating and crying on a hot day. What would you do?

[novius]

I'd bust the window, get the kid an ice cream, and charge the person who left them with child endangerment as hard as I could. Maybe that's why I'm fire not pd.

[theocd]

If it's obvious (i.e. car directly outside a shop/supermarket) spend a few minutes looking for the owner. Any more than 5-10, depending on the condition of the child (i.e. f they deteriorate swiftly within 2 that changes things) then *pop* in goes that window. Parents, if found, verbally rebuked, if they're ignorant when found - cautioned and referred to social services.

 

The OC-D

[Fred03]

Ask any bystanders about the situation (who was with the child? how long were they gone? etc) Try the door to see if its unlocked (try before you pry) if the door is locked and the child isn't in immediate danger get the lockout kit from my car and open the door that way, if the child is in immediate danger use a glass punch on the passenger door to gain entry and then remove the child from the vehicle. Call EMS to have them evaluate the child.

[youdotoo]

I would break the window as soon as I got on scene. North Carolina State law allows you to break  a window if an animal or child is locked in a hot car.  http://www.newsobser...t-officers.html

[999madtom]

Your the dispatcher for the police and there is a bomb threat at a shopping centre. What would you do? Number of vehicles dispatched (Police, Ambulance, Fire Service)? 

[Handsup!]

I'm guessing it's confirmed to not be a hoax?

 

I would send the local EOD unit, escorted by two armed units (preferably sedans, such as the Trojan units), and multiple IRVs to cordon off a large radius from the shopping center.

Fire wise, I'd dispatch multiple regular engines, a few tankers and chiefs to command the scene. A ladder unit or two if it's a multiple story thing.

I'd send the HART team, with their mobile hospital thing, along with a few regular ambulances, and keep air ambulance on standby.

[RangerDog]

Close the area in 2 kilometers around the area, call the EOD, Multiple ambulances and ME (Sort of Riot team) to evacuate the area, multiple fire units, and ambulances. also a sigma team for injuries. Also a police helicopter for controlling, and a mobile command team.

[Ace]

You are undercover to take down an arms dealer. At the site of the deal and takedown you see 3 people kicking someone on the ground. The arms dealer will show up any minuite.

[Handsup!]

You are undercover to take down an arms dealer. At the site of the deal and takedown you see 3 people kicking someone on the ground. The arms dealer will show up any minuite.

 

Well, I still think it's an officer's job to protect and serve. You can't risk calling a patrol car and waiting seeing someone being assaulted like that. It's just not right. I'd go and identify, deal with it appropriately and blow the sting

[RangerDog]

take them out of ech other, but not on a police way

[BrodyLongo_16915]

For you fire guys: Your dispatched for a working fire you pull up on scene and as the officer you give a size up the size up is a single story vacant house with fire showing reports are there might be squatters what do you do?

I dont know about other areas of NJ but a 1st alarm assignment for a reported structure fire is typically 2 engines, 1 ladder, one tender (or tanker), 2 special service unit such as a rescue truck with a cascade and a RIC team (or FAST team, RIT team, etc.) and a rescue squad to set up rehab operations. If i was personally in the officers shoes, i would pass command to the next due arriving unit or officer of higher rank. 

1st due engine - Initiate aggressive interior attack

2nd due engine - Hit the hydrant and feed into 1st due engine

1st due truck - take the driveway. Assuming they have a full crew, send the Officer and 2 firefighters inside for primary search and send the rest to the roof for vent

Tender - If no hydrants, start a shuttle, request a third engine to the scene and alert Tender Task Force with the closest fill site

Special Service Units- cascade stages at rehab location for ease of access and to ensure firefighters go to rehab, RIC team stages at command post

Rescue Squad - Send one ambulance crew to stage at the command post with Stretcher, Jump Kit, Suction Unit, AED, ETC. and have a second ambulance crew run Rehab operations away from scene.

Any feedback on this is very much welcome!

[Fred03]

Lets totally use a scenario from a while back ignoring the PD one, Firefighters unite lol.

 

Send two guys in with a inch and a half, have two at the door feeding them line and as the RIT.

Call for 2 more departments for mutual aid. And 2 medic units, one for rehab, one for patient treatment/transport

If the people are available send in a second hose line with with 2 more firefighters and have 2 more pull another line for exterior exposure protection (but with SCBAs on but not on air)

Once MA is on scene and they are assisting with water shuttling, have 2 teams climb up a ground ladder to the second floor (if anything is left) and begin a search up there with SCBAs on air.

[Voodoo_Operator]

You are undercover to take down an arms dealer. At the site of the deal and takedown you see 3 people kicking someone on the ground. The arms dealer will show up any minuite.

 

 

Proceed to beat up all 4 guys with the closest convenient blunt object you can find. Yell loud obscenities at their unconscious bodies until the arms dealer shows up. When he inevitably asks "Holy s*** what the f*** just happened?", calmly reply "Walked past these fools and one of them sneezed, can you believe that s***?"

 

Establish reputation as stone-cold lunatic badass. Climb up ranks of criminal organization to become boss' right hand man. Wait for big deal with mob/triads/cartel to go down. Rip off prosthetic nose, pull out badge, yell "Police, everybody freeze!" while dozens of SWAT guys pour in from the doors and rappel down from the roof and a chopper swoops in and shines its spotlight. Take part in ensuing large-scale firefight. Fire your pistol without reloading. Boss comes out of hiding holding your girl hostage. Take precise shot at boss' head, sending him tumbling down in a vat of molten steel/barrel of acid/shark tank. Deliver cheesy yet badass line. Kiss the girl. Asshole captain pats you on the back and congratulates you. Reply with cynical remark. Walk out with girl under your arm. 80s rock-and-sax tune. Roll credits.

[Fred03]

Okay, Voodoo wins, we can all go home now.