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[Zach1019]

Ok well we have our own opinion. Here's what I have to say about it. There's no reason why that guy ha to go shoot up an elementary school but I live in America and anyone who is not a felon is allowed to bear arms. That is they way the US constitution is written and it won't ever be changed. Any US citizen has a right to defend themselves. The kid who shot up the elementary school took his parents legally owned weapons and killed those innocent people. Taking our weapons away is not going to solve anything it will make it harder to defend ourselves from danger and people who want to hurt others. Now if the principal had a small hand gun or something under lock and key in her desk and the office knew about it and the kid was shot and killed by her none of this would've happened and ended the way it did. I don't think a principal will ever be allowed to have that kind of stuff in the school but things can be stopped by one simple good person trying to keep others safe. The police can never protect everyone at the same time. People need to be able to defend themselves and their family. That is just my opinion.

[Dyson]

Ok well we have our own opinion. Here's what I have to say about it. There's no reason why that guy ha to go shoot up an elementary school but I live in America and anyone who is not a felon is allowed to bear arms. That is they way the US constitution is written and it won't ever be changed. Any US citizen has a right to defend themselves. The kid who shot up the elementary school took his parents legally owned weapons and killed those innocent people. Taking out weapons away is not going to solve anything it will make it harder to defend ourselves from danger and people who want to hurt others. Now if the principal had a small hand gun or something under lock and key in her desk and the office knew about it and the kid was shot and killed by her none of this would've happened and ended the way it did. I don't think a principal will ever be allowed to have that kind of stuff in the school bit things can be stopped by one simple good person trying to keep others safe. The police can never protect everyone at the same time. People need to be able to defend themselves and their family. That is just my opinion.

A principle with a gun???? This is when discussing the right to bear arms gets stupid.
What do you need to defend yourselves from? People with guns? WHO WOULDN'T HAVE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE if you outlawed firearms to citizens.

I personally think there's no argument.

[Zach1019]

Well we all have our own opinions and I just voiced mine. I didn't say anything to you about your post. But whatever ok done with this.

One thing. There are always going to be people who want to hurt other and take other people's things. That's why the citizens need to have something to protect themselves.

[Dyson]

Well we all have our own opinions and I just voiced mine. I didn't say anything to you about your post. But whatever ok done with this.

Yeah I don't mean to personally attack your post, but there's a lot of blind ignorance by Americans when it comes to this discussion, no offence of course.
People are too wrapped up in trying to keep firearms that they refuse to even consider the benefits of getting rid of them.

Just know that this will happen again with guns bought legally on innocent victims.

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[Zach1019]

Yeah I don't mean to personally attack your post, but there's a lot of blind ignorance by Americans when it comes to this discussion, no offence of course.
People are too wrapped up in trying to keep firearms that they refuse to even consider the benefits of getting rid of them.

Just know that this will happen again with guns bought legally on innocent victims.

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No I know Dyson it's all good and I understand what you point is and I just wanted to say what I think about the whole thing. There's no hard feeling between us.

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[Dyson]

Amen, even firearm death relative to the population, the US still claims top prize

[met police999]

Two quotes that relate to this

"Guns don't necessarily solve the problem you only have to look at the American experience,many colleges are lost without even drawing their gun"~Sir Hugh Orde the president of the association of chief police officers

"A car,bat,bottle,poison a gun are not the only weapon"~Anonymous

[Newfoundking]

First of all, that infographic cannot be trusted. I've seen three others with different statistics.

Secondly, the biggest problem I see is that guns are seen as the answer to the gun problem.

Quote one, I'm assuming you mean colleagues, and not colleges. If not, please explain this quote.

Quote two, again with the grammar, but looking at the effectiveness of each weapon. A car is made for transport, secondary use is a weapon. It can do a lot of damage easily. A bat is secondary as a weapon, but even up close, it takes a lot of effort and time to kill one person. Likewise with a bottle. Poison when weaponized (most poison has other uses) can be very effective, thus the prohibition. Guns are primarily a weapon and can kill many effortlessly

[Fred03]

"A car,bat,bottle,poison a gun are not the only weapon"~Anonymous

The only purpose for a gun is to kill someone.

[met police999]

First of all, that infographic cannot be trusted. I've seen three others with different statistics.

Secondly, the biggest problem I see is that guns are seen as the answer to the gun problem.

Quote one, I'm assuming you mean , and not colleges. If not, please explain this quote.

Quote two, again with the grammar, but looking at the effectiveness of each weapon. A car is made for transport, secondary use is a weapon. It can do a lot of damage easily. A bat is secondary as a weapon, but even up close, it takes a lot of effort and time to kill one person. Likewise with a bottle. Poison when weaponized (most poison has other uses) can be very effective, thus the prohibition. Guns are primarily a weapon and can kill many effortlessly

yea it was on my ipod i quickly done it and yea i meant colleagues lol

[Sawdbuster]

@Dyson

I was just backing up your point, shoulda put something in saying that.

And the topic about having people inside the school with guns came up at my school too, which was just weird. If a gun was in the school, the chances of an incident like this would go up insanely. That is not a good idea, but I couldn't convince the people I was talking with otherwise. They said the guns could be locked, but then the staff wouldn't be gotten to in time. So it is a bad idea and just not worth it.

[AZNALUBMA]

I live in Italy, you all know what having "mafia" in your country could mean... we got many criminals out there, but nearly noone has a gun to protect their home.
A gun is considered an illegal item, a "criminal thing", something you shouldn't ever see in your life, something that is dangerous and that will bring you troubles, with police or with other criminals, so it's better you simply keep clear of it.

If you are a man in danger, for example if you are very rich and they want to rob or kill you they simply blow up your car, burn your house, kill your family members and there is nothing you can do then. no gun can save you.

Witness protection service is held by the most brave men I know, since they know they can be killed every moment but they still fight this big invisible monster we all call mafia.

I hope this will make you understand how the guns are a trouble for people more than a solution even in a high "criminal rate" country like mine

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Utah boy brings gun in fear of Connecticut school shooting


Utah boy charged with bringing gun to school, cites fears of Newtown attack. - 12-19-2012

An 11-year-old Utah boy who said he brought a gun to school to protect himself from a Newtown-style attack, then brandished the pistol at three classmates during recess, has been detained on assault and weapons charges, a school spokesman said on Tuesday.

The boy, a Utah sixth-grader, took the unloaded .22-caliber handgun to his school south of Salt Lake City in his backpack on Monday, a spokesman for the Granite School District said.

Some ammunition was also found in the backpack, but it did not appear to go with the gun, said the spokesman, Ben Horsley.

No one was injured in the incident, which occurred as jittery parents, teachers and students around the country faced their first day back at school since 20 children and six adult staffers at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were shot to death by a lone gunman last Friday.

The 11-year-old student at Utah's West Kearns Elementary, who was not publicly identified, has insisted he brought the gun to school to "protect himself and his friends from a Connecticut-style incident," Horsley said.

However, the boy is accused of waving the gun at three classmates on a soccer field during recess. Later on Monday, one of those students and a second classmate alerted their teacher, who "immediately took the student into custody and took him down to the principal's office," Horsley said.

After being briefly questioned, the boy admitted bringing the gun to school, and the weapon was recovered minutes later.

Some parents questioned the decision not to initiate a security "lockdown," but school administrators reasoned that it made no sense to risk alarming students when the threat was so quickly averted, Horsley said.

The boy was booked into a local juvenile detention center on Monday night on one count of possession of a deadly weapon on school property and three counts of aggravated assault. He was also suspended from school indefinitely.

Horsley described the boy's parents as shocked by the incident and cooperating with investigators, who found the gun belonged to a relative who has been living temporarily with the boy's family.

He said the community was "rightfully" shaken by the incident. "Because of the tragic occurrence in Connecticut, people's emotions with respect to children's safety is right at the surface, and we're just as concerned as the parents."

Because the incident unfolded less than an hour before classes were dismissed, parents could not be notified until well after the school day had ended, and only then by telephone, he said.