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[Stan]

I think for the clarity of this we should.

For that small amount of suggestions where more then half won't happen? No really not I know whats going to happen and what not and I really do not need a list since the pages are quite low numbered

BTW, the TOS link at the top right is still broken. It should be more visible, like have its own tab called Rules, rather then TOS.

This will be fixed when the new tos comes in, before that time it will stay like that since the tos is at the top of each forum

The tab TOS is currently under testing on our intern board so that's coming if it works right

[Grim_Wizard]

Well what about an emergency planet mod? Something that the users can join to promote the planet. Oh, and because I didn't see one I started a new help topic in the EM3 game help for all the common helps that everyone posts. Including the idiots who post the question over the same question. Good lord.

Back to topic, I feel that we should do this (if we do) in the standard game colors, just to show non bias. As a team I feel that we can make the Planet more.

[Xplorer4x4]

For that small amount of suggestions where more then half won't happen? No really not I know whats going to happen and what not and I really do not need a list since the pages are quite low numbered

Well he does have a point, sorry but it really doesnt seem like your that receptive to the idea here. I can more then understand with the ads, but the other stuff, hey why not give it a try rather then being all about what you want? Have you tried running any of these ideas by the staff and voting on them? This gives better perspective since no one seems to really be commenting on the other ideas here.

This will be fixed when the new tos comes in, before that time it will stay like that since the tos is at the top of each forum

The tab TOS is currently under testing on our intern board so that's coming if it works right

If I dont see it there, how many people do you think will actually notice it there? Not that many I would imagine.

[Xplorer4x4]

Nother idea, not sure exactly how the IPB Mod forum is set up, Invionize forums isnt it? But at vbulletin.org they use a system where you can mark a mod installed. Then it will show how many people have installed the mod, shows things like weather file edits are required, template edits, and even lets you be notified via email when an update to a mod is posted. Since submods arent posted in the download center, and the download center doesnt have such an option anyways..I think this would be great for submods, and would work great for mods as well, but primarily for submods.

You can get an over view of it here:
http://www.vbulletin...ad.php?t=237531

But as your going to view it as a guest, you wont see all the options, but it is a great system and I am sure there is an IPB equivalent.

Had another idea besides that, but i forgot it.

[Xplorer4x4]

Period or for IPB 3.1? Im shocked since usually hacks are ported every which way.

[SirMoo]

Server costs a year: 599,00€
Domain costs a year: 38,00€
Licensing and support fees a year: 95,00€
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Normal yearly running costs: 732,00€
One time fees over the last year: 250,00€
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This years running costs: 982,00€ = 1247,04 US$
The time I and the staff put in this project: Priceless

Do you mind release some other tid-bits? I'm understanding you use a server and not a cpanel based hosting account? If this is true, can you share some of the bandwidth amounts this site sustains. Your fees seem WAY to high. The fact you pay 38€ a year on a domain is messed up. It looks like a financial restructure needs to be done and move some services around. :/ Would you mind publicly or privately listing out some more information like what all your spending on and what the site does in terms of load and bandwidth? I can't see over 1.2k USD being logical for one site like this...

[Xplorer4x4]

In regards to the domain cost, it may be the price of all the domains he owns. I think theres like 4 domains pointed to this server.

Might be cheaper to switch to vBulletin though. Its like $30 a year for support if you buy an owned license.

Moo, this is a really high end server. Havent looked at server prices but if memorey serves me right it runs an i7 920 with 8 GB RAM. I cant recall the rest of the specs but I do know its a rather high end server.

[Stan]

Do you mind release some other tid-bits? I'm understanding you use a server and not a cpanel based hosting account? If this is true, can you share some of the bandwidth amounts this site sustains. Your fees seem WAY to high. The fact you pay 38€ a year on a domain is messed up. It looks like a financial restructure needs to be done and move some services around. :/ Would you mind publicly or privately listing out some more information like what all your spending on and what the site does in terms of load and bandwidth? I can't see over 1.2k USD being logical for one site like this...

We use ~1500 GB on bandwidth every month, for that price you wont get this in the US.

I think you are clearly underestimating the site regarding visits and bandwidth. We have ~6000 unique daily visits and ~381819 hits per day

The server is clearly over-sized, but if I get the option to pay 150.00€ setup and get a 200% better setup than the server without setup I know what I take. Besides that, hosting and VPS cannot take the site at the current stage anymore and this way it offers enough buffer for future projects.

Anyways, this was the smallest package and you will really not get a core I7 server with 8GB DDR3 ram and 750 RAID 1 with 5000GB Transfer on an 100Mbit line in the US (At the time we bought this one, there wasn't)

Please notice that in the cost we had, we had to addition the setup fee this year and the purchases of several additional licenses, if we hadn't we would have been under the 950$ for sure

In regards to the domain cost, it may be the price of all the domains he owns. I think theres like 4 domains pointed to this server.

Might be cheaper to switch to vBulletin though. Its like $30 a year for support if you buy an owned license.

Moo, this is a really high end server. Havent looked at server prices but if memorey serves me right it runs an i7 920 with 8 GB RAM. I cant recall the rest of the specs but I do know its a rather high end server.

You are right on 1 and 3 but 2 you aren't. I own a perpetual licence of IPB fromt he old licensing system and pay 30.00$ a year, besides that I am happy with IPB therefore a change from IPB is not questionable for me.

[Ale]

-And it will be better if there are more downlaods (because in the polish site there are other mods and in the german site , too)

I think user activity is more important then downloads, but then again, people can upload files up to 200MB themselves to the database. And then I had issues with modders that didn't want their files on other sites in the past

Ok, but there are submods or maybe mods that are available for download but there aren't in the Download section and found them is a little complicated. Just it will be good if every released mod/submod that haves a topic here upload their files to the download section

[Xplorer4x4]

Wasnt aware IPB changed there pricing method.

What about separating submods?

Is the hack for seperating stick and normal threads out yet, or maybe has it become an on/off option in the latest version?

[SirMoo]

We use ~1500 GB on bandwidth every month, for that price you wont get this in the US.

I think you are clearly underestimating the site regarding visits and bandwidth. We have ~6000 unique daily visits and ~381819 hits per day

The server is clearly over-sized, but if I get the option to pay 150.00€ setup and get a 200% better setup than the server without setup I know what I take. Besides that, hosting and VPS cannot take the site at the current stage anymore and this way it offers enough buffer for future projects.

Anyways, this was the smallest package and you will really not get a core I7 server with 8GB DDR3 ram and 750 RAID 1 with 5000GB Transfer on an 100Mbit line in the US (At the time we bought this one, there wasn't)

Please notice that in the cost we had, we had to addition the setup fee this year and the purchases of several additional licenses, if we hadn't we would have been under the 950$ for sure




You are right on 1 and 3 but 2 you aren't. I own a perpetual licence of IPB fromt he old licensing system and pay 30.00$ a year, besides that I am happy with IPB therefore a change from IPB is not questionable for me.

Costs make a bit more sense now when you explain as such. 8gb and 100mbit... Yeah. I'm starting to understand why it costs so much. So it is a completely dedicated? Not a shared. - None-the-less, I think I'm getting a bit off topic. :/

[Xplorer4x4]

It's not out yet but requires only a minor template edit.

Any ETA as to when this might get done? Its not a major issue but it helps keep the thread listing a bit more organized because the sticky topics really blend in with regular topics imo.

@Moo, 100% dedicated, EMP does not share the server with any other sites except for a test forum, from the sounds of it, and I think you can gather what thats used for Maybe some other test sites and little projects like that.

[Stan]

Costs make a bit more sense now when you explain as such. 8gb and 100mbit... Yeah. I'm starting to understand why it costs so much. So it is a completely dedicated? Not a shared. - None-the-less, I think I'm getting a bit off topic. :/

Not really off topic

The 100Mbit line was needed, with a 10Mbit line we would go unavailable unfortunately

[firetruck449]

i think we should add one more google ad bot or something else like that. then mabye we could save enough money to put an add for emergency planet on the web and get more people to come=more topics for us to post on!

[firetruck449]

i think we should add one more google ad bot or something else like that. then mabye we could save enough money to put an add for emergency planet on the web and get more people to come=more topics for us to post on!

i know it would be annoying but i think it would be worth it

[Xplorer4x4]

Whats more annoying is double posting for no reason.

[erfd]

I never have problems with google bot nor does it annoy me, not a bad idea.