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#1541 b2bomber

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Geschrieben 30 August 2010 - 10:54

i dont think its practical for this game since you need to manage every aspect of the incident, if you go into a ist person mode and only control 1 guy nothing would get done at the rest of the scene


true there would deferentially be more of an issue but since they get one call at a time that makes it a bit simpler. As well if you look at all those sports games like madden 11 they have control over one person and then A/I are doing other things at once. But Idk how simple or complex that would be to do.
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Geschrieben 30 August 2010 - 11:49

Madden is also updated once a year. This games about 4-5 years old. Even at once incident at a time there still wouldnt be anything else getting done. Is it possible? I suppose, but 1) The games AI is far from Madden, and 2)i imagine it would mean throwing away two years or so of progress and starting fresh to accomplish this.

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Geschrieben 30 August 2010 - 11:51

your right so it would have to be like a private mod if done so with tons of script writers to accomplish the task at least.
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 12:47

yea i mean anything is possible but a first person version would be a scripting nightmare
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 01:09

So, I'm not familiar with the FDNY (which is part of the mod), but, do any engines have medics?
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 02:13

Aren't they cfr's on the engines according to fdny documentaries. There not medics but they have like an auto defibulator and basic equipment.
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 02:31

your right so it would have to be like a private mod if done so with tons of script writers to accomplish the task at least.

Why would it have to be a private mod? And it wouldnt need that many scripters, Tim alone is responsible for all the scripts in this mod, but it would take alot of time. By the time it would be done who knows how popular EM4 modding will be? It could be dead seeing as EM5 isnt far off. On top of that because of the way EM4 is designed it takes a very powerful pc to run smooth in first person perspective. I have a pretty high end PC by all means and yet it doesnt run first person well in EM4 so the vast majority of the forum couldnt even run it.

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 02:35

My computer runs EM4 LA Mod with 60+ FPS, yet when I zoom in and try to look sideways, it'll get my FPS down to 2-3. The game is simply not made for such behaviour.

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 02:44

It sucks having an awsome PC and playing games with bad or low graphics...

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 03:24

Aren't they cfr's on the engines according to fdny documentaries. There not medics but they have like an auto defibulator and basic equipment.

All FDNY Firefighters are Certified First Responders (CFRs), which in New York State, is lower than an EMT. They can't be in charge of patient care, and they're only trained in the basics of first aid and cpr, it's kinda like a step above having red cross cpr and first aid. All firefighters are cfrs or above, although they can only operate at a cfr level. The FDNY has the largest prehospital care system in the world, so the engine is really to basically help out the ambulance dispatched to the call rather than get to the call and start treatment before the ambulance gets there

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 03:56

So, I'm not familiar with the FDNY (which is part of the mod), but, do any engines have medics?

no but all of them are CFR (certified first responder with a defibrillator) they can only do basic medical treatment before ems arrives

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 08:20

All FDNY Firefighters are Certified First Responders (CFRs), which in New York State, is lower than an EMT. They can't be in charge of patient care, and they're only trained in the basics of first aid and cpr, it's kinda like a step above having red cross cpr and first aid. All firefighters are cfrs or above, although they can only operate at a cfr level. The FDNY has the largest prehospital care system in the world, so the engine is really to basically help out the ambulance dispatched to the call rather than get to the call and start treatment before the ambulance gets there

So.. basically, you can be a full on paramedic/firefighter, join the FDNY, and be stuck doing below EMT work? And for largest pre-hospital care, It may be large, but what if an ambulance isn't in the area and lets say your running a code, which turns out to be a person in asystole? Beginning CPR is basic, and every second counts. It's just what I see, would be a good suggestion too with a somewhat vital argument to me.(wouldn't happen in the mod because your doing 1 call at a time, but lets say if there was more. :P) BTW, on the way you guys set up the timer on the b.a's and stuff, it's all real time, like up to 10 or 15 minutes on the bottle, but does that mean the fires are actually going to take much longer to be extinguished, or is that just if you had something like. a HAZMAT incident. (idk if you guys included those.)
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 03:57

Well one of their screenshots is about a chemical or gas in the street, so I imagine there's some use for HAZMAT here. And they say they've scripted their own version of events so who knows what they've come up with :D

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 04:42

How does the nyfd refill there trucks with fuel. Is it like a gas station thing or do they have a special system at the station for gas and water?
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 05:22

In my town we just go to a fueling station that belongs and is used only by town-owned vehicles, but in a city like New York, I''d assume they have a pump or some other fueling source inside the station.
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 06:12

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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 06:15

Next offtopic comment regardless to on-topic mixed into it gets this:
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 06:46

I didn't think it was that hard to read a few giant words on a giant picture...
Please explain the fueling station and how it is connected to the mod. If you can't, I'm going to have to wake mikey, and he's a cranky soul to wake up.


I was figuring on suggesting adding the concept of the vehicles in the game to have a fuel meter just like all the other things like scba and trucks would have to refill on occasion but i wanted to first know how they do it before i just threw that out there.

just saying please don't ban. but i was trying to make the correlation between the real world and connecting it to the mod, just did not want to sound stupid.
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 06:56

I was figuring on suggesting adding the concept of the vehicles in the game to have a fuel meter just like all the other things like scba and trucks would have to refill on occasion but i wanted to first know how they do it before i just threw that out there.

just saying please don't ban. but i was trying to make the correlation between the real world and connecting it to the mod, just did not want to sound stupid.

there are no fueling stations for your units in the mod ;)
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Geschrieben 31 August 2010 - 07:05

there are no fueling stations for your units in the mod ;)


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